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Old 04-10-2007, 10:24 AM
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I know you guys are having a blast with your first race with your first horse but from the outside looking in you might want to consider a more reasonable spot. True anything can happen when the gates open and I wish you luck.

Just the morning line odds should be a reminder of this. Asking a young horse to do not one but two new things (surface and distance) and the fierce competition at Keeneland will be alot to handle.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:26 AM
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I know you guys are having a blast with your first race with your first horse but from the outside looking in you might want to consider a more reasonable spot. True anything can happen when the gates open and I wish you luck.

Just the morning line odds should be a reminder of this. Asking a young horse to do not one but two new things (surface and distance) and the fierce competition at Keeneland will be alot to handle.
She's actually not that outclassed... JMO.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:59 AM
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Lets see how she measures up. It is an aggressive placement but certainly not unprecendented. Take a young well bred filly with a bit of natural speed, change up the training routine, and perhaps if she is relaxed and takes to the surface she could surprise a few people. Being off since January she may need a race or two anyway to reach her peak. Why not race her on the Keeneland lawn and get a sense of her current class and suitability to the surface.

I don't think that these connections are aiming to necessarily "strike at first asking". If they wanted to do that they could put her in a $20K N2L claimer at Mountaineer, after putting some bullet drills in her.

Rather I think the idea is to see if she can be developed perhaps gradually into something a little more special.
just my take.
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:22 PM
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Lets see how she measures up. It is an aggressive placement but certainly not unprecendented. Take a young well bred filly with a bit of natural speed, change up the training routine, and perhaps if she is relaxed and takes to the surface she could surprise a few people. Being off since January she may need a race or two anyway to reach her peak. Why not race her on the Keeneland lawn and get a sense of her current class and suitability to the surface.

I don't think that these connections are aiming to necessarily "strike at first asking". If they wanted to do that they could put her in a $20K N2L claimer at Mountaineer, after putting some bullet drills in her.

Rather I think the idea is to see if she can be developed perhaps gradually into something a little more special.
just my take.
I was just mulling over the race with the DRF and TGs, and she certainly seems up against it in here. Though, it sounded like there's room for improvement given the state Chuck said she was in when he got her. Sounded like she had some bad habits and was a little tough to manage. With some improvement, she still seems in over her head here, but I think it might not be as bad as it looks on paper potentially.
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:34 PM
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No doubt Brian, she will be an underdog and is up against it.
When you have been running in mid level claimers and you move up to a Kee allowance, that is heady stuff. But I think it is encouraging that after the maiden win she moved up in price, ran against unrestricted claimers (not N2L), and stretched out, and finished second well clear of the third place horse after setting the fractions. I think she has shown a bit of talent, and the class test is warranted.

Also, I just think its a great venue to debut the partnership.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:46 AM
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I know you guys are having a blast with your first race with your first horse but from the outside looking in you might want to consider a more reasonable spot. True anything can happen when the gates open and I wish you luck.

Just the morning line odds should be a reminder of this. Asking a young horse to do not one but two new things (surface and distance) and the fierce competition at Keeneland will be alot to handle.
Just as a quick question: are you going to make a fifth remark about the spotting of Sumwonlovesyou in this particular race, or is four enough?

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Old 04-11-2007, 09:55 PM
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Posted this on the "Sumwon Live" thread but thought I'd add it hear as well..


Back from dinner with Chuck and Paula (wife).. What a long, fun day..!

Hope all enjoyed this first experience as the Dee Tee Partners, and everyone here really, participated in what I believe was a tremendous accomplishment. In her first start in ALW company; her first start on grass; and first start in 90 days, Sumwon was as over-her-head as thought, and perhaps short for the 8.5 journey.. No matter. Even with a last place effort, the pleasure in bringing together so many people who had never before been involved in horse ownership was overwhelming.

The objective of the Dee Tee Stable was to promote horse ownership and racetrack comraderie, and today was an undeniable success. At least 16 partners were in attendence at Keeneland, and I think they had a great time. And I can see that everyone that followed the day here, whether in DT or not, were equally excited. The kind words from everyone here is greatly appreciated, and I'm sure I speak for Chuck when I say that it's been our pleasure getting this undertaking off the ground. It's really those that inspired the concept and got involved that made it happen. And this was only the next step in the process.

Sumwon exited the race tired, indicating she needed more work yet, but scoped clean and snapped back well after cooling out. This race will do a lot for her fitness, and as mentioned earlier in the thread, will likely run back on Sunday, April 29, Opening Day at Churchill. in a 1 mile (dirt) $50,000 claimer.

More from Chuck later I'm sure.. and from me as well. Back in Florida tomorrow and will catch up soon as I can.

Thanks to all Derby Trailers for making this a wonderful day...
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:09 PM
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Posted this on the "Sumwon Live" thread but thought I'd add it hear as well..


Back from dinner with Chuck and Paula (wife).. What a long, fun day..!

Hope all enjoyed this first experience as the Dee Tee Partners, and everyone here really, participated in what I believe was a tremendous accomplishment. In her first start in ALW company; her first start on grass; and first start in 90 days, Sumwon was as over-her-head as thought, and perhaps short for the 8.5 journey.. No matter. Even with a last place effort, the pleasure in bringing together so many people who had never before been involved in horse ownership was overwhelming.

The objective of the Dee Tee Stable was to promote horse ownership and racetrack comraderie, and today was an undeniable success. At least 16 partners were in attendence at Keeneland, and I think they had a great time. And I can see that everyone that followed the day here, whether in DT or not, were equally excited. The kind words from everyone here is greatly appreciated, and I'm sure I speak for Chuck when I say that it's been our pleasure getting this undertaking off the ground. It's really those that inspired the concept and got involved that made it happen. And this was only the next step in the process.

Sumwon exited the race tired, indicating she needed more work yet, but scoped clean and snapped back well after cooling out. This race will do a lot for her fitness, and as mentioned earlier in the thread, will likely run back on Sunday, April 29, Opening Day at Churchill. in a 1 mile (dirt) $50,000 claimer.

More from Chuck later I'm sure.. and from me as well. Back in Florida tomorrow and will catch up soon as I can.

Thanks to all Derby Trailers for making this a wonderful day...
Thanks again Steve for everything!
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:27 AM
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It was a great day indeed. The experience of seeing "sumwon" saddled and running in a race at KEE was unbelievable for me. I hope all the partners were as pumped as I was. We knew she was in tough, but I'm very happy she came back good. It was bad luck to draw into the flight with Christies Treasure. The other flight (7th race) went the 8.5 fur. a full 4 seconds slower than "sumwon's" race. I'm sure the slower fractions would have helped "sumwon" have a little more gas in the tank down the stretch. Hopefully she gets in at CD on the 29th and we can have all this fun over again. Thx to Steve, Chuck and all the crew
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:48 PM
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Posted this on the "Sumwon Live" thread but thought I'd add it hear as well..


Back from dinner with Chuck and Paula (wife).. What a long, fun day..!

Hope all enjoyed this first experience as the Dee Tee Partners, and everyone here really, participated in what I believe was a tremendous accomplishment. In her first start in ALW company; her first start on grass; and first start in 90 days, Sumwon was as over-her-head as thought, and perhaps short for the 8.5 journey.. No matter. Even with a last place effort, the pleasure in bringing together so many people who had never before been involved in horse ownership was overwhelming.

The objective of the Dee Tee Stable was to promote horse ownership and racetrack comraderie, and today was an undeniable success. At least 16 partners were in attendence at Keeneland, and I think they had a great time. And I can see that everyone that followed the day here, whether in DT or not, were equally excited. The kind words from everyone here is greatly appreciated, and I'm sure I speak for Chuck when I say that it's been our pleasure getting this undertaking off the ground. It's really those that inspired the concept and got involved that made it happen. And this was only the next step in the process.

Sumwon exited the race tired, indicating she needed more work yet, but scoped clean and snapped back well after cooling out. This race will do a lot for her fitness, and as mentioned earlier in the thread, will likely run back on Sunday, April 29, Opening Day at Churchill. in a 1 mile (dirt) $50,000 claimer.

More from Chuck later I'm sure.. and from me as well. Back in Florida tomorrow and will catch up soon as I can.

Thanks to all Derby Trailers for making this a wonderful day...
thanks for the update...circling the 29th on my calendar...how exciting, running in the keeneland spring meet, and now opening day at churchill. glad to here sumwon felt ok this morning.
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:23 PM
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Posted this on the "Sumwon Live" thread but thought I'd add it hear as well..


Back from dinner with Chuck and Paula (wife).. What a long, fun day..!

Hope all enjoyed this first experience as the Dee Tee Partners, and everyone here really, participated in what I believe was a tremendous accomplishment. In her first start in ALW company; her first start on grass; and first start in 90 days, Sumwon was as over-her-head as thought, and perhaps short for the 8.5 journey.. No matter. Even with a last place effort, the pleasure in bringing together so many people who had never before been involved in horse ownership was overwhelming.

The objective of the Dee Tee Stable was to promote horse ownership and racetrack comraderie, and today was an undeniable success. At least 16 partners were in attendence at Keeneland, and I think they had a great time. And I can see that everyone that followed the day here, whether in DT or not, were equally excited. The kind words from everyone here is greatly appreciated, and I'm sure I speak for Chuck when I say that it's been our pleasure getting this undertaking off the ground. It's really those that inspired the concept and got involved that made it happen. And this was only the next step in the process.

Sumwon exited the race tired, indicating she needed more work yet, but scoped clean and snapped back well after cooling out. This race will do a lot for her fitness, and as mentioned earlier in the thread, will likely run back on Sunday, April 29, Opening Day at Churchill. in a 1 mile (dirt) $50,000 claimer.

More from Chuck later I'm sure.. and from me as well. Back in Florida tomorrow and will catch up soon as I can.

Thanks to all Derby Trailers for making this a wonderful day...
Opening day is Sat. the 28th, but it is definitely opening weekend!
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:41 PM
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I know you guys are having a blast with your first race with your first horse but from the outside looking in you might want to consider a more reasonable spot. True anything can happen when the gates open and I wish you luck.

Just the morning line odds should be a reminder of this. Asking a young horse to do not one but two new things (surface and distance) and the fierce competition at Keeneland will be alot to handle.
Check out these outclassed no hope horses

http://www.drf.com/drfHCPOnlineFileR...&file_type=pdf

http://www.drf.com/drfHCPOnlineFileR...&file_type=pdf
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Links don't work, who were they?
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:53 PM
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I cant link them so that you can see them but check out the first time I raced Fast City and Silks for Di and tell me if you thought that they had a shot.
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:59 PM
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I remember Fast City. Had some graded earnings....ran in the Jefferson Cup at Churchill, I might have been at that race. Nice.

Have many Came Home's been running on turf yet?
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:09 PM
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I remember Fast City. Had some graded earnings....ran in the Jefferson Cup at Churchill, I might have been at that race. Nice.

Have many Came Home's been running on turf yet?
I'm not sure if anyone posted the links for the Brisnet Ultimate PP's but Came Home's turf stats would be on them.
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:16 PM
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Good luck to everyone involved. That said, I think it'll be better if she can rate a little bit.

Keep in mind, at the end of every race there is only one happy owner. There are nine people who are disappointed to one degree or another.

Last thought, as long as she actually "runs" and comes back sound it is a victory.
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:14 PM
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Just started 'doing' this race for the Keeneland contest (I won it two years ago, did I tell you?) and discovered what this thread was about. According to the pedigree line in the BRIS PPs, Came Home has had 0% Turf winners, but he is, of course, a newby in the sire ranks. And mum was a G3 SW on turf, so one has to hope she takes after mum.

Amamzingly, when I looked at the PPs, I see that your filly was beaten last out by Delaware Debutante, who is currently owned by some friends from another board! Small world principle. DD has gone to CT so her owners can protect her in allowance races instead of risking her for a tag. They were really worried in that race that she'd be claimed but dodged a bullet.
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:21 PM
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I remember Fast City. Had some graded earnings....ran in the Jefferson Cup at Churchill, I might have been at that race. Nice.
3rd as a maiden, paid for him with that purse. Also 2nd in Saranac at Saratoga.
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Old 04-10-2007, 05:35 PM
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I remember Fast City. Had some graded earnings....ran in the Jefferson Cup at Churchill, I might have been at that race. Nice.

Have many Came Home's been running on turf yet?
0 wins with only 13 starts on the turf, those 13 starts were made by 11 of his offspring. Not enough runners to draw any conclusions.
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