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Old 04-08-2007, 07:11 PM
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Well if you're going to win only one major then the Masters is definitely the one I would want to win. He didn't choke and he put up a solid number.

No doubt PP....you shoot 69 today...you are a deserving winner.
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Old 04-08-2007, 07:36 PM
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Tiger really dissapointed, at least he broke a club in half showing how strong he is
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Old 04-08-2007, 07:46 PM
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Watching The Masters in HD is a must. What an afternoon, props Zach.
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Old 04-08-2007, 07:56 PM
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needs to prove to me today was no fluke....otherwise, he goes down in history as just another 1 major wonder....
He was on the Ryder Cup team last year was he not?
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Old 04-08-2007, 08:22 PM
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I definitely agree with watching the Masters in HD. Great look at the greens' contours.

Two things that annoyed me: the graphic that listed the leader by time of day; and one announcer's assertion that Tiger wasn't feeling well after he landed in the trap on 17.

The graphic is unnecessary, as useless as any graphic posted. Then, why does the analyst -- who was corrected by Feherty, I think -- provide a "Tiger Excuse?"

Good for Zach Johnson.

that is done soley to present to the viewer how quickly the leaderboard can change at Augusta on Sunday.
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Old 04-08-2007, 08:23 PM
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Much of the Mastery Tiger holds over the Tour Pros is his mental toughness. Today, Zach played within himself and did what he needed to do to win. I think he carries this on with his carreer,hopefully. But, isn't that what all pros try to do?
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Old 04-08-2007, 08:28 PM
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Much of the Mastery Tiger holds over the Tour Pros is his mental toughness. Today, Zach played within himself and did what he needed to do to win. I think he carries this on with his carreer,hopefully. But, isn't that what all pros try to do?

so much easier said than done Timm.

The tour is full of 1 and 2 time "FLUKE" major winners.
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Old 04-08-2007, 08:55 PM
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so much easier said than done Timm.

The tour is full of 1 and 2 time "FLUKE" major winners.
No doubt...we could chalk it up to 'right place,right time'...I'm just saying that when it was time for him to fade this week..Zach didn't. Hopefully he's moving into that maturity of his game where he'll be able to challenge the leaders more often and post some wins.
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Old 04-08-2007, 09:00 PM
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My 2 cents

This weekend, many players went out and played Augusta. The player versus the course. Today, Zach beat the course better then any other player over the course of 4 days and has earned his green jacket. He did not beat Tiger Woods, or any other golfer but rather put up a better number.

Golf, in my eyes, is not about who you are playing against in tourney situations like this (of course other tourneys have different scoring scenarios, see The Ryder Cup, etc). It is about the man versus the course.

Those players that let others scores affect their play will not be successful in my opinion.

Once again, props Zach. You are not a fluke in this mans eyes. Top 40 in the money since you turned pro, 1 tour win already previous this Major, and many more victories quite possibly in the horizon. Lets hope that you and yours enjoy the moment and not get caught up in the "hype" that people will throw your way trying to play the "one and done" game.

My cousin won a major, then came back and has scored some nice checks after his win. He surely is not a "one and done" and for those that think that way I challenge their opinion. Zach surely has earned his place as a Major champion and is due all the credit in the world today.

After all, YOU withstood the pressure and made the shots that counted on Sunday at Augusta.
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Old 04-08-2007, 09:27 PM
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Congrats to Zach! He lives a couple of miles from me.
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Old 04-08-2007, 10:31 PM
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so much easier said than done Timm.

The tour is full of 1 and 2 time "FLUKE" major winners.
I looked back at the list of past Masters (just this major) winners and the only flukes I see are Larry Mize and Sandy Lyle (sorry to offend if these players are considered deserving). Everyone else on the list had or has had very good careers in my estimation. I hope it continues with this young man as he seems very deserving from a personal point of view. I wont put a view out on Weir because he is still in service. This seems like a hell of a good group. Better than the other majors I would venture.

2007 - Zach Johnson
2006 - Phil Mickelson
2005 - Tiger Woods
2004 - Phil Mickelson
2003 - Mike Weir
2002 - Tiger Woods
2001 - Tiger Woods
2000 - Vijay Singh
1999 - Jose Maria Olazabal
1998 - Mark O'Meara
1997 - Tiger Woods
1996 - Nick Faldo
1995 - Ben Crenshaw
1994 - Jose Maria Olazabal
1993 - Bernhard Langer
1992 - Fred Couples
1991 - Ian Woosnam
1990 - Nick Faldo
1989 - Nick Faldo
1988 - Sandy Lyle
1987 - Larry Mize
1986 - Jack Nicklaus
1985 - Bernhard Langer
1984 - Ben Crenshaw
1983 - Seve Ballesteros
1982 - Craig Stadler
1981 - Tom Watson
1980 - Seve Ballesteros
1979 - Fuzzy Zoeller
1978 - Gary Player
1977 - Tom Watson
1976 - Ray Floyd
1975 - Jack Nicklaus
1974 - Gary Player
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Larry Mize - yes - nice for the local boy. Probably did it in for Norman.

Lyle - NO!
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Old 04-09-2007, 03:19 AM
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I looked back at the list of past Masters (just this major) winners and the only flukes I see are Larry Mize and Sandy Lyle (sorry to offend if these players are considered deserving). Everyone else on the list had or has had very good careers in my estimation. I hope it continues with this young man as he seems very deserving from a personal point of view. I wont put a view out on Weir because he is still in service. This seems like a hell of a good group. Better than the other majors I would venture.

2007 - Zach Johnson
2006 - Phil Mickelson
2005 - Tiger Woods
2004 - Phil Mickelson
2003 - Mike Weir
2002 - Tiger Woods
2001 - Tiger Woods
2000 - Vijay Singh
1999 - Jose Maria Olazabal
1998 - Mark O'Meara
1997 - Tiger Woods
1996 - Nick Faldo
1995 - Ben Crenshaw
1994 - Jose Maria Olazabal
1993 - Bernhard Langer
1992 - Fred Couples
1991 - Ian Woosnam
1990 - Nick Faldo
1989 - Nick Faldo
1988 - Sandy Lyle
1987 - Larry Mize
1986 - Jack Nicklaus
1985 - Bernhard Langer
1984 - Ben Crenshaw
1983 - Seve Ballesteros
1982 - Craig Stadler
1981 - Tom Watson
1980 - Seve Ballesteros
1979 - Fuzzy Zoeller
1978 - Gary Player
1977 - Tom Watson
1976 - Ray Floyd
1975 - Jack Nicklaus
1974 - Gary Player
Pat....very few "fluke" winners at Augusta. IMO...Sandy Lyle's win was far from a fluke. He was one of the best players in the world in the mid-late 80's. I really hope that Zachs win turns out NOT to be a fluke....but only he can control that. I sincerely hope he uses this as a stepping stone to a very promising career.
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