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[blackthroatedwind]

The jockeys are also free to appear in advertisements. I am talking about them wearing advertisements during races.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The jockeys are also free to appear in advertisements. I am talking about them wearing advertisements during races.

I understand that but , racetracks and owners and stallion farms can use jockeys images to promote and sell whatever they want , jockeys get no compensation for this , its called madia rights and it is what the jockeys sign away every year to get on track accident insurance from racetracks. They could solve this problem by removing the jockey from a horses back when they advertise a horse at stallion that just won the breeders cup or any other races they use to promote with ,just use a computer and remove the jocks image from on the horses back.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Honu

I understand that but , racetracks and owners and stallion farms can use jockeys images to promote and sell whatever they want , jockeys get no compensation for this , its called madia rights and it is what the jockeys sign away every year to get on track accident insurance from racetracks. They could solve this problem by removing the jockey from a horses back when they advertise a horse at stallion that just won the breeders cup or any other races they use to promote with ,just use a computer and remove the jocks image from on the horses back.

Or, those jockeys that are lucky enough to ride the kind of horses that appear in breeder's ads could simply refuse to ride these horses.

The jockeys have a preposterous sense of entitlement in a game where they are close to the only involved parties making any money.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Or, those jockeys that are lucky enough to ride the kind of horses that appear in breeder's ads could simply refuse to ride these horses.

The jockeys have a preposterous sense of entitlement in a game where they are close to the only involved parties making any money.

You call 35 % off the top of someones paycheck and another 2o% to the government "only ones making money". How about when a persons horse flips over backwards and busts the tree in your 400.00 saddle and you foot the bill for a new one. We can hash this out all day , I will never change my mind that racetracks and horseman have an obligation to provide riders with unlimited accident insurance while on the job.

[blackthroatedwind]

What " jockeys " are giving 35% of their paychecks to whom ( and you can't mean their agents because that is part of the cost of doing business....and they get 25-30% anyway ). As for the taxes they pay to the government....we all pay those so spare me that cost.

[citycat]

You are worried about a $400 saddle....................That horse that flipped and had to be put down just cost me 50K !!!

[Honu]

Originally Posted by citycat

You are worried about a $400 saddle....................That horse that flipped and had to be put down just cost me 50K !!!

How many has that happened to that u own ? I have had horse flip in the gate and bust my tree on the tail gate and the horse didnt die. Had horses make the gap and go over the rail and bust my tree and they didnt die.

[NoCarolinaTony]

Originally Posted by citycat

You are worried about a $400 saddle....................That horse that flipped and had to be put down just cost me 50K !!!

Do you run them "uninsured"?

NC Tony

[Honu]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

What " jockeys " are given 35% of their paychecks to whom ( and you can't mean their agents because that is part of the cost of doing business....and they get 25-30% anyway ). As for the taxes they pay to the government....we all pay those so spare me that cost.

25 % to the agent is the common fee and 10 percent to the valet , and if you ride for 35 $ jock mount like at most cheap tracks that is alot of money. Point is moot, jockeys should have unlimited accident insurance no matter what , Im done with this subject , the view will always be jockeys are greedy little bastards and that they dont deserve anything . Well Ill tell you something my life was worth way more than the 22 dollar jock mount that I rode for sometimes and if people cant see that then there is something is something wrong with them.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Honu

25 % to the agent is the common fee and 10 percent to the valet , and if you ride for 35 $ jock mount like at most cheap tracks that is alot of money. Point is moot, jockeys should have unlimited accident insurance no matter what , Im done with this subject , the view will always be jockeys are greedy little bastards and that they dont deserve anything . Well Ill tell you something my life was worth way more than the 22 dollar jock mount that I rode for sometimes and if people cant see that then there is something is something wrong with them.

A jockey needs an agent to get him or her mounts and needs a valet to handle his or her tack. These are costs of doing business. As is insurance. They want the good part of being a private contractor and not the bad. Perhaps if they had some unity within their ranks, and didn't continually hire the wrong people to represent them, they would be in a better position. As it is, they just want, and seem unwilling to give anything in return. The fact is there was a simple, and fair, plan last year in Kentucky which they rejected because they had to contribute one third, and that third would have been weighted more heavily to the riders winning more races, and thus would have been exceedingly fair to the lesser riders. But, they were unwilling to contribute at all. Why should others help those who refuse to help themselves?

[randallscott35]

Maybe Morty can wear advertisements....you know, for Nodoz.