i have new hope for 07...

[Dunbar]

The clearest proof of dumb money comes in each Kentucky Derby Future Pool. There are always a few horses that are going to run before the pool closes. And there is always some money bet on those horses BEFORE they run their races.

Watch next week when NoBiz, AGS, et al, will draw plenty of money before the Wood is even run. These same bettors could wait to bet until Sunday, and they'd have a ton more info on their horses, but nooooooo.

--Dunbar

EDIT: I had the wrong week, and therefore the wrong horses, in what I wrote above. It'll be the Ark Derby and the Blue Grass that are run during Future Pool 3, not the Wood. The horses that some clueless people will be betting on a few hours too early are Street Sense, Curlin, Hard Spun, Great Hunter, and more.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

The clearest proof of dumb money comes in each Kentucky Derby Future Pool. There are always a few horses that are going to run before the pool closes. And there is always some money bet on those horses BEFORE they run their races.

Watch next week when NoBiz, AGS, et al, will draw plenty of money before the Wood is even run. These same bettors could wait to bet until Sunday, and they'd have a ton more info on their horses, but nooooooo.

--Dunbar

I agree. If I were to bet them, and I've only bet them once, and that was on Monarchos, I'd bet the final pool in the final hour of wagering. Otherwise, I look at it as a crackhead bet. And very much so, if one puts serious money in the 1st and 2nd pools.

The majority of the dumb money has left this sport, moving on to other interests that do not require thought, such as slots, etc. We do still have one bountiful afternoon of it though--and that's Derby day. The only afternoon that the nation generally watches and throws money, in large amounts, into the wagering pools. And often, their betting is fueled by their alcohol consumption.

So, to that end, have another mint julep on me.

There's more where the last one came from. Fatten the pools for all of us here and elsewhere that having been watching all year.

[Payson Dave]

Weekends at the Spa there is still a fair amount of "general public" money in the mutuel pools also.

[AeWingnut]

The Dery future pool is a great bet for the people that put it on. They get to hold your money for a long long time. The odds that your horse will even make the derby are bad enough ..winning it.. I know people have shown you can make money on the future pool but it doesn't even come close to the amount of risk involved.

ummm btw I had a hot $2 on Bluegrass Cat (can't remember what his odds were but I'm certain the place money was almost as good with half the risk)

They need to allow you to bet place and show in the future pool. What could it hurt?