Lasix

[31lengths]

Perfect. Thanks.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by 31lengths

Perfect. Thanks.

Every horse I have ever been involved with gets it. Too many drugs in horse racing for my liking.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Exceller

Every horse I have ever been involved with gets it. Too many drugs in horse racing for my liking.

I don't think Smarty Jones raced on it up until his last two starts if I remember correctly. Horses are too frequently given lasix as a performance enhancer when it shouldn't be used. Not all horses are bleeders, and I don't think that non-bleeders should be given the medication. JMO.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I don't think Smarty Jones raced on it up until his last two starts if I remember correctly. Horses are too frequently given lasix as a performance enhancer when it shouldn't be used. Not all horses are bleeders, and I don't think that non-bleeders should be given the medication. JMO.

Unfortunately I wasn't involved with Smarty Jones. Vets make a fortune administering drugs. That is part of the problem.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Exceller

Unfortunately I wasn't involved with Smarty Jones. Vets make a fortune administering drugs. That is part of the problem.

Sorry... I wasn't saying you were part of Smarty Jones... I don't know what the hell I was thinking by quoting anyone. LMAO

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I don't think Smarty Jones raced on it up until his last two starts if I remember correctly. Horses are too frequently given lasix as a performance enhancer when it shouldn't be used. Not all horses are bleeders, and I don't think that non-bleeders should be given the medication. JMO.

Totally agree Cajun.
It's now called salix, not lasix. It's way too overused. Given when there isn't a problem at all.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I don't think Smarty Jones raced on it up until his last two starts if I remember correctly. Horses are too frequently given lasix as a performance enhancer when it shouldn't be used. Not all horses are bleeders, and I don't think that non-bleeders should be given the medication. JMO.

I think it was his last three starts-- I think they put him on it for the Kentucky Derby. I guess they wanted to make sure they had all bases covered. Grr. And I agree with you all about Salix/Lasix. I was really disappointed when NY caved and started allowing it. I understand that many horses are legitimate bleeders, but then I think, so what are they doing racing and later passing on their genes in the stud shed?

Devis His Due ran almost his entire career free of medication, isn't that right? Over 40 starts, or something like that?

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I think it was his last three starts-- I think they put him on it for the Kentucky Derby. I guess they wanted to make sure they had all bases covered. Grr. And I agree with you all about Salix/Lasix. I was really disappointed when NY caved and started allowing it. I understand that many horses are legitimate bleeders, but then I think, so what are they doing racing and later passing on their genes in the stud shed?

Devis His Due ran almost his entire career free of medication, isn't that right? Over 40 starts, or something like that?

You're right GR.
Like many of H Allen J's, neither did Kelly Kip.

[Five Star Derek]

There have been a number of studies that suggest that lasix does not prevent bleeding to the extent that people think it does and in plenty of cases not at all. The increased usage of lasix also correlates with horses running less frequently through the years. Is there a connection? Probably(along with other reasons: breeding, othere legal and illegal meds etc...).

I have personally seen horses bleed through Lasix. I have never heard of if "calming" a horse, but I have seen it do just the opposite. "Bad reactions" from Lasix are not uncommon. I watched a filly flip and kill herself due to her "first time" on Lasix.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Five Star Derek

There have been a number of studies that suggest that lasix does not prevent bleeding to the extent that people think it does and in plenty of cases not at all. The increased usage of lasix also correlates with horses running less frequently through the years. Is there a connection? Probably(along with other reasons: breeding, othere legal and illegal meds etc...).

I am curious when horses started running on lasix. Does anyone know whether most horses ran on lasix back in the 1960s and 1970s? I would have to think that lasix may be one of the reasons why horses run less frequently. Horses get dehydrated enough without lasix when they race on a hot day. It can't be healthy to race on a diuretic in 90 degree weather. I would have to think it would take a horse at least a few extra days to recover from racing with lasix on a hot day. Since lasix is a diuretic, it totally dehydrates you. A combination of the stress of a race and the total dehydration suffered as a result of lasix would have to knock a horse out for a couple of weeks.
I think they should ban practically all of these drugs including lasix.