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Old 04-02-2007, 10:03 PM
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Send that to the Iraqi and American families who have loved ones blown to bits by devices planted in the middle of markets selling vegetables in Iraq. The same devices that have Iranian signatures all over them. They will enjoy the comparison I am sure.
Pgardn,
Many Iraqis have been killed by the US also.
Anyway, it looks like this situation is heating up.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull
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Old 04-02-2007, 11:36 PM
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In the end, until we really commit to alternative energy, the Middle East will always have us over the (oil) barrel. I mean, the user does not dictate terms to the pusher. We want out of the Middle East, we need to find a different fuel source.
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:38 PM
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In the end, until we really commit to alternative energy, the Middle East will always have us over the (oil) barrel. I mean, the user does not dictate terms to the pusher. We want out of the Middle East, we need to find a different fuel source.
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That's not our only addiction.
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/49777/

I agree that there needs to be effort to find alternatives.
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:14 PM
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Pgardn,
Many Iraqis have been killed by the US also.
Anyway, it looks like this situation is heating up.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull
We are not trying to add fuel to the fire. We are trying to find a way out. Iran is trying to create chaos. There is a big difference. As far as I know, we have not planted devices in the middle of civilian crowds in order to kill innocent people. And in the cases have been accused of killing innocents soldiers, we have publicized and brought them to trial.

We have made a mess out of the situation. But comparisons between a democratic government, and a government that is run by religious zealots is not a good way to argue a decent point.

That is a good April fools article. No way. Look at the sources. Its silly at this point.

"The British occupier forces did trespass our waters. Our border guards detained them with skill and bravery. But arrogant powers, because of their arrogant and selfish spirit, are claiming otherwise," IRNA quoted Ahmadinejad as saying during a speech in the southeastern city of Andinmeshk.

Please tell me you dont believe the above from the article. The British were doing what a UN charter has told them. And its pretty clear they were not in Iranian waters.
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:45 PM
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We are not trying to add fuel to the fire. We are trying to find a way out. Iran is trying to create chaos. There is a big difference. As far as I know, we have not planted devices in the middle of civilian crowds in order to kill innocent people. And in the cases have been accused of killing innocents soldiers, we have publicized and brought them to trial.

We have made a mess out of the situation. But comparisons between a democratic government, and a government that is run by religious zealots is not a good way to argue a decent point.

That is a good April fools article. No way. Look at the sources. Its silly at this point.

"The British occupier forces did trespass our waters. Our border guards detained them with skill and bravery. But arrogant powers, because of their arrogant and selfish spirit, are claiming otherwise," IRNA quoted Ahmadinejad as saying during a speech in the southeastern city of Andinmeshk.

Please tell me you dont believe the above from the article. The British were doing what a UN charter has told them. And its pretty clear they were not in Iranian waters.
Pgardn,
As I said before, I'm no fan of Iran.
Seems that the Russians had info leaked to them.
The article from the Jerusalem Post, though perhaps not translated correctly, wasn't posted by me as a "joke" in anyway.
This situation could very well serve as an excuse for many initiatives.
The motivations, alas, I can only speculate...diversion, saber rattling, oil, or...as has been played to advantage so many times previously, fear.
I'll watch to see how this shakes out and hope for a peaceful resolution.
In my opinion, enough blood has already been shed.
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