Tigers win it all this year!

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

That was a fun team to watch, and this years team is even better. The majority of managers in the league admit that the Tigers are a very powerfull team and will be tough to beat this year.

Because, my God, they had one good season after a run of embarrassing (that word might not be harsh enough) excuses for baseball seasons. Then everyone is set to annoint them the saviors of Detroit and claim that baseball "is back" in Detroit.

Well see how "back" in Detroit it is when they don't even make the playoffs this year.

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

and what was annoying about people being excited and proud that baseball is back in Detroit.

Um, in case last year was the first time you've watched Tigers baseball, let me make a comparison for you. It would be like Zippy Chippy coming out of retirement to win one race, and Pointgiven1985 saying "Zippy Chippy is back! I would say that he should be a major player in the Handicap division this year."

[IrishofNDMan]

Baseball is back in Detroit, and I have followed them for as long as I can remember, even back to that 100+ lose season. This team is built to be Champions, just take a look at their lineup and rotation and tell me it doesn't look good.

Don't compare baseball to horse racing, it is different. Look at the NFL, the Patriots had a few not so good years, then they win the superbowl and ever since have been considered "back". After this year, you will know that the Tigers are back!

[saucon17]

NDman been a die hard Phillies fan for years. Hopefully this year is their
year. The Phils got a solid starting rotation that doesn't have a #1 and
a #5 starter. The have two #2 and two #3 and a #4 starter. The infield
is solid with Rollins, Howard and Utley. We have a new 3rd baseman in
Wes Helms. There is no way Howard will have a season like last year they
will be pitching around him to much and Utley is a fabulous player who can do
it all. The outfield is ok with Burrel, Rowand and Vicctorino. The man thing
with the outfield is if Rowand can stay healthy and Burrel doesn't f-ing stick
up the joint. The middle relief is just awful for the Phils, hopefully they don't
blow to many games. This is the Fightin Phils, like usually they will dissapoint
their fans and will be bitching and moaning by late May. I got tickets for all
their interleague games at home and they are playing the Tigers.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by saucon17

NDman been a die hard Phillies fan for years. Hopefully this year is their
year. The Phils got a solid starting rotation that doesn't have a #1 and
a #5 starter. The have two #2 and two #3 and a #4 starter. The infield
is solid with Rollins, Howard and Utley. We have a new 3rd baseman in
Wes Helms. There is no way Howard will have a season like last year they
will be pitching around him to much and Utley is a fabulous player who can do
it all. The outfield is ok with Burrel, Rowand and Vicctorino. The man thing
with the outfield is if Rowand can stay healthy and Burrel doesn't f-ing stick
up the joint. The middle relief is just awful for the Phils, hopefully they don't
blow to many games. This is the Fightin Phils, like usually they will dissapoint
their fans and will be bitching and moaning by late May. I got tickets for all
their interleague games at home and they are playing the Tigers.

Phils seem like a team that has some really good pieces but is very shaky in the bullpen. Old closers are always injury risks and if Flash goes down there is a giant hole. Myers and Hamels are very solid in the rotation. The Mets rotation is very shaky and with Sanchez out and Mota suspended their pen has some questions. The Braves pitching is also a little dicey and the Marlins are still too young. Forget the Nats. Phils have a shot if things come together.

[IrishofNDMan]

I like the Phillies, but here is this years World series:

Tigers vs. Dodgers

Tigs in 6

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

I like the Phillies, but here is this years World series:

Tigers vs. Dodgers

Tigs in 6

I was looking at the national league today and there seems like 10 teams that have a legit shot. It is funny that so many complain about the big market/small market stuff in baseball but it seems like there are more teams wth a legit shot to get to the playoffs than the NFL which is supposedly the model of parity.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Don't compare baseball to horse racing, it is different. Look at the NFL, the Patriots had a few not so good years, then they win the superbowl and ever since have been considered "back". After this year, you will know that the Tigers are back!

I can't compare it to horse racing, but you can compare it to football? The point is the same.

It's just like horse racing, and just like the Patriots (who actually won the Super Bowl, as you noted). They did it once. The Patriots backed it up with other seasons just like horses have to back up exceptional races that are out of line with their regular performances.

So just like in horse racing, I will let the Tigers prove it to me. They can beat me all day long. Let them show me that last season IS the new rule, and not the exception that it certainly looks like over a period of time on paper. Then, baseball would be back in Detroit.

[brianwspencer]

And by the way, I'm actually engaged in this conversation right now, but have to stop coming to DT until after work.

Just like the DWC yesterday, I refuse to know if Vacare wins before I get home to watch the replay at 6, and posts here will ruin it for me.

[Cannon Shell]

Tigers are good but losing Rogers hurts. Now if Andrew Miller can be ready soon....

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Tigers are good but losing Rogers hurts. Now if Andrew Miller can be ready soon....

Andrew Miller is crucial to the team right now, and he has the potential to be a stud.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Tigers are good but losing Rogers hurts. Now if Andrew Miller can be ready soon....

It does hurt. We're going to learn fast about Chad Durbin and Zach Miner.

Where's Joe Sparma when we need him.

[IrishofNDMan]

Ok, you can wait and let the Tigers show you that they are back. So if that's the case and you are waiting for them to show you something, then why do you have to bash them and say they had one lucky year. Instead of talking trash about them, why don't you wait and see before you pass judgment on them. But, baseball is my sport, and I have been watching the Tigers for years now and knew they were on the right path. My dad had a nice little bet on them in Vegas last year to make the World Series, then he put a little of his winnings on them to win it.

This team is the real deal. And Brandon Inge is the man!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

And Brandon Inge is the man!

Except when he turns into iron glove in the Series!

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Except when he turns into iron glove in the Series!

He is a great 3B, and he can actually play anywhere in the field he is needed. He makes some plays I never thought possible, real fun to watch.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Ok, you can wait and let the Tigers show you that they are back. So if that's the case and you are waiting for them to show you something, then why do you have to bash them and say they had one lucky year. Instead of talking trash about them, why don't you wait and see before you pass judgment on them. But, baseball is my sport, and I have been watching the Tigers for years now and knew they were on the right path. My dad had a nice little bet on them in Vegas last year to make the World Series, then he put a little of his winnings on them to win it.

This team is the real deal. And Brandon Inge is the man!

Most important answer to your question? Because I think that they aren't as good as they looked last year. Waiting and seeing is boring. I'd much rather be able to resurrect this thread this fall after they miss the playoffs and be able to say I was right.

What fun would that be if I said, "Well, let's wait and see."

Picking winners is all about passing judgment. If you don't agree, I'd be hard pressed to take you seriously as a horseplayer.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Ok, you can wait and let the Tigers show you that they are back. So if that's the case and you are waiting for them to show you something, then why do you have to bash them and say they had one lucky year. Instead of talking trash about them, why don't you wait and see before you pass judgment on them. But, baseball is my sport, and I have been watching the Tigers for years now and knew they were on the right path. My dad had a nice little bet on them in Vegas last year to make the World Series, then he put a little of his winnings on them to win it.

This team is the real deal. And Brandon Inge is the man!

ND,

You seemed to have passed judgement on them by declaring them the '07 Series winners, why can't B-Dub pass judgement like you did?

Can't have it both ways.

Not bashing you. Been a Tigers fan since before you were born. Unfortunately, I had to stay home with my Grandma and miss the '68 World Series game my Dad and Mom took my two brothers to. I did make it to the series in '84. Also was at old Comisky April 7, 1984 and saw Jack Morris no-hit the Sox. An absolute blast (roadtripped with three friends) only had a half dozen or so beers thrown on us from Sox fans as we cheered Morris the Cat on from down the right field line.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

ND,

You seemed to have passed judgement on them by declaring them the '07 Series winners, why can't B-Dub pass judgement like you did?

Can't have it both ways.

Not bashing you. Been a Tigers fan since before you were born. Unfortunately, I had to stay home with my Grandma and miss the '68 World Series game my Dad and Mom took my two brothers to. I did make it to the series in '84. Also was at old Comisky April 7, 1984 and saw Jack Morris no-hit the Sox. An absolute blast (roadtripped with three friends) only had a half dozen or so beers thrown on us from Sox fans as we cheered Morris the Cat on from down the right field line.

LOL. Old school Tigers fan. I was at game 5 in '68. Lolich got a big hit and Brock forgot to slide. Remember it like yesterday.