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Old 06-27-2006, 01:09 PM
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Wait; I think I mean the '40s, not the '50s. Bad GR! Can't keep history straight! 1948 was when we recognized Israel, yes? Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
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Old 06-27-2006, 01:35 PM
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Wait; I think I mean the '40s, not the '50s. Bad GR! Can't keep history straight! 1948 was when we recognized Israel, yes? Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
I am pretty sure that is correct.

But Hamas, which just won a pretty overwhelming little election in Palestine (and I do mean Palestine as Israel has given in to their autonomy), does not recognize Israel. And therein lies the problem. They wish for the death and total destruction of Israel, and thats just not gonna happen.
So as long as the Palestinians are represented by elected terrorists, both Palestinians and Israelis will suffer. It is much clearer now. The cards are turned up on the table.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:02 PM
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Oh, very valid point, Pgardn, and I think the Palestinians should have burned Arafat in effigy for turning down the deal offered a few years' back that gave them 95 percent of what they wanted. But I don't think Palestine is likely to recognize Israel any sooner than Israel recognizes Palestine. And Hamas being elected hasn't helped any. It also puts us in a tight spot-- we wave our "Democracy! Democracy!" banner all over the place, and then get confronted by nations who democratically elect factions we don't like. If we recognize them, we tacitly support enemies of our allies. If we don't recognize them, we look like big hypocrites-- charging into Iraq and decimating the nation to establish "democracy" when we by our actions in other nations indicate we may not respect what a sovereign nation's people choose.

Oh God, this makes my head hurt. No wonder people like to watch that American TASS, Fox News-- it keeps it easy: "Us good! Them bad!". The truth, on the other hand, is almost always much more complicated...
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