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Old 06-27-2006, 11:49 AM
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There isn't a person out there that cares less about black people than Jesse Jackson. He exploits the difficulties blacks face in order to line his pockets. Any guy who calls himself Reverand and is worth millions is a crook. That goes for the Pat Robertson types too, before anyone goes throwing the racist card at me. Jesse Jackson is an atrocious human being and racing should stay as far away as possible.

Maybe I should start representing whites because the NBA is racist. LOL.

As someone who has actually met Jesse, I disagree strongly! Certainly he has made his share of mistakes, both in his personal life as well as publically, but the man has dedicated his life to a cause and while he has profited somewhat, that alone can't discredit him! Dr King trusted him...that has always been enough for me. Jesse will bring considerable clout and can get things done! Nobody is saying the owners aren't doing their part but the track owners (lets look closely at crooks like Magna for example) certainly must do more! It's easy to be critical of someone like Jesse...but he and Al Sharpton, for all their shortcomings, continue to be the social critics this culture needs.
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Old 06-27-2006, 11:58 AM
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As someone who has actually met Jesse, I disagree strongly! Certainly he has made his share of mistakes, both in his personal life as well as publically, but the man has dedicated his life to a cause and while he has profited somewhat, that alone can't discredit him! Dr King trusted him...that has always been enough for me. Jesse will bring considerable clout and can get things done! Nobody is saying the owners aren't doing their part but the track owners (lets look closely at crooks like Magna for example) certainly must do more! It's easy to be critical of someone like Jesse...but he and Al Sharpton, for all their shortcomings, continue to be the social critics this culture needs.
Let him stick to carrying on Dr. King's work and stay away from Racing.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:02 PM
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As someone who has actually met Jesse, I disagree strongly! Certainly he has made his share of mistakes, both in his personal life as well as publically, but the man has dedicated his life to a cause and while he has profited somewhat, that alone can't discredit him! Dr King trusted him...that has always been enough for me. Jesse will bring considerable clout and can get things done! Nobody is saying the owners aren't doing their part but the track owners (lets look closely at crooks like Magna for example) certainly must do more! It's easy to be critical of someone like Jesse...but he and Al Sharpton, for all their shortcomings, continue to be the social critics this culture needs.
People like him and Al Sharpton make a living off trusting people like you. Al Sharpton is worse the JJ, if that is possible. If you are looking to AS and JJ as your social critics you are really crazy. THEY ARE CON ARTISTS. I do love how they are both reverands too. Throw that word in front of anything and people buy that con. Has nothing to do with color either, Pat Roberston and Falwell are right in there with them. Nothing better than millionaire religious guys who con people out of money. My favorite though was Pat Robertson naming his racehorse Mr. Pat and then having to give it up because gambling is not for religious people. What con artists these guys are.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:05 PM
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Not to be too political.....but has Al Sharpton apologized for his involvement in the Tawana Brawley incident yet? You know, the one where he knowingly ruined an innocent man's life in an attempt to make a name for himself.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:11 PM
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he is the krusty the clown of politics..hes for and about jesse..

LOL, my coffee came out my nose! That's funny.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:11 PM
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Here are some quotes from Jesse when he spoke in Louisville yesterday. You can also check them out at bloodhorse.

"At the end of the day, you get some roses, but someone else gets the money," Jackson said, apparently in reference to the Kentucky Derby (gr. I). "You have to say, 'Pay me for the risk I take. Pay me for the excellent athlete I am.' "

Jackson also questioned the widely accepted status of jockeys as independent contractors. "It's a long word meaning semi-indentured servant," he said. "Contractors have contracts with benefits."

Following his meeting with Guild members, Jackson fielded questions from the media. He said his interest in jockeys is two-fold: He is intrigued by the history of black riders in the United States, and also because "in the evolution of the industry, jockeys were left behind. Of all the professional athletes who are artists that engage in high-risk activity, jockeys are the least protected."

"That's an old system," Jackson said of the independent contractor status. "These owners, (if they are involved in) other industries, their janitors aren't independent contractors. They know better. They'll do this as long as they can get away with it.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:12 PM
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Not to be too political.....but has Al Sharpton apologized for his involvement in the Tawana Brawley incident yet? You know, the one where he knowingly ruined an innocent man's life in an attempt to make a name for himself.
Of course not, but he is busy using poor peoples money that he conned them out of to start up a sitcom career. No joke.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:04 PM
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common somer, how can you say that with a straight face..he is the krusty the clown of politics..hes for and about jesse..he has alighned him self with the black panthers ect..hes a rev. yet.hes got half the south side pregnant..he a total hypocrate and not the peoples champion you might think..he mugs for the camera at every chance no matter what the situation sends himself into places hes not wanted disrupting real negoitations...i thiink the whole thing smells of jesse the clown hey hey kids..
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Old 06-28-2006, 03:52 PM
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As someone who has actually met Jesse, I disagree strongly! Certainly he has made his share of mistakes, both in his personal life as well as publically, but the man has dedicated his life to a cause and while he has profited somewhat, that alone can't discredit him! Dr King trusted him...that has always been enough for me. Jesse will bring considerable clout and can get things done! Nobody is saying the owners aren't doing their part but the track owners (lets look closely at crooks like Magna for example) certainly must do more! It's easy to be critical of someone like Jesse...but he and Al Sharpton, for all their shortcomings, continue to be the social critics this culture needs.
Im sure his wife felt that way too!
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Old 06-28-2006, 04:01 PM
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As someone who has actually met Jesse, I disagree strongly! Certainly he has made his share of mistakes, both in his personal life as well as publically, but the man has dedicated his life to a cause and while he has profited somewhat, that alone can't discredit him! Dr King trusted him...that has always been enough for me. Jesse will bring considerable clout and can get things done! Nobody is saying the owners aren't doing their part but the track owners (lets look closely at crooks like Magna for example) certainly must do more! It's easy to be critical of someone like Jesse...but he and Al Sharpton, for all their shortcomings, continue to be the social critics this culture needs.
Somer, I have met Jesse too, and I disagree with you. He uses other blacks to line his pockets. He is close friends with a HUGE attorney down in south Florida that I know personally, and I was "lucky" enough to meet Jesse on numerous occasions. It is SAD what he has done and that is JMO.
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:51 PM
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DUHH me...I thought NYRA had problems...

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/tod...64741&subsec=1
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:16 PM
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The race isn't the Kentucky Derby anymore.

Its the YUM! Kentucky Derby

OK, I'm biased being a shareholder.
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:26 PM
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The race isn't the Kentucky Derby anymore.

Its the YUM! Kentucky Derby

OK, I'm biased being a shareholder.
JJP,
Not for nothin' but the article I posted was about Manley and Jackson taking over the Jockey's Guild.
btw, isn't Anheuiser- Busch taking over the sponsorship? Or am I really uninformed?
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Old 06-29-2006, 06:04 PM
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Actually I think you're right. I just saw something about it on another site. A couple of posts in the thread earlier mentioned the Kentucky Derby, which I guess now is the Amheuser-Busch Kentucky Derby, not the Yum! Kentucky Derby.
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Old 06-29-2006, 10:50 PM
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Already said my peice about Jesse, but as a humble servant of the people he carts away close to 2 mill in cash and perks every year.
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Old 06-29-2006, 10:39 PM
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As someone who has actually met Jesse, I disagree strongly! Certainly he has made his share of mistakes, both in his personal life as well as publically, but the man has dedicated his life to a cause and while he has profited somewhat, that alone can't discredit him! Dr King trusted him...that has always been enough for me. Jesse will bring considerable clout and can get things done! Nobody is saying the owners aren't doing their part but the track owners (lets look closely at crooks like Magna for example) certainly must do more! It's easy to be critical of someone like Jesse...but he and Al Sharpton, for all their shortcomings, continue to be the social critics this culture needs.
Somer, I respect your opinion of JJ, although I don't share same. I am afraid that your use of "considerable clout" will equal some kinda "blackmail".
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