Tueflesberg

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

He's got a double-dose of that Monarchy family thru State; the best members of this family recently have been Johannesburg, Tale of the Cat, Minardi, and Pulpit. Milers for the most part, several that were better at 2 than 3 and reverted to sprinting thereafter. Pulpit was the closest thing to a classic horse from the line and he was by A.P. Indy, not Jo'burg, a top 2yo who didn't train on.

cobalt blue still not looking promising to you ann? LOL

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

cobalt blue still not looking promising to you ann? LOL

Hey, Cobalt Blue is in my RTTR stable, has been since the beginning. Dam's side a trifle iffy (Cornish Prince, sire of third dam Queen to Be, was a closet quarter horse, always scares me when looking for stayers), but I loved Queen to Be's half-brother Fair Test, a real long-winded turfer out in SoCal when I was a newby.

IT's not real clear, the author of LeftattheGate says Teuf. has an interesting pedigree for stretching out and then cites his column from 2/19:

"Teuflesberg, who made his 13th start, has suddenly now won three of four since getting buried in the Juvenile. He's been in training straight through since last April, so in the unlikely event that he's your 2007 Kentucky Derby winner, that would certainly cause a sudden change in the debate, wouldn't it? Seems like reason in itself to join the Teuflesberg fan club. He's by Johnannesburg out of a Devil's Bag mare, and the most interesting aspect of his pedigree to me is the fact that he is inbred 5x4 to the broodmare State (Nijinksy), with both sire and dam tracing to her tail-female. State is the dam of Narrate, who is the dam of Preach (and the 4th dam of Johannesburg), who's the dam of the fashionable young sire Pulpit (AP Indy)."

So make of that what you will. I know nothing of this pedigree stuff I leave it to you to parse...

[sumitas]

They crossed State for Teuflesburg and that brings in a stamina influence. Also, T's bottom line is from the family of Round Table so there is stamina there. Enough stamina ? I'm more concerned about the number of races he's had.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by sumitas

They crossed State for Teuflesburg and that brings in a stamina influence. Also, T's bottom line is from the family of Round Table so there is stamina there. Enough stamina ? I'm more concerned about the number of races he's had.

Round Table was a 'perfect storm'; he had the stamina of his sire Princequillo and the speed of his dam's side (Sir Cosmo over Friar Marcus may mean nothing to you, but to GB-ers of the 1940s it meant 'sprint speed'.) Round Table's sister Monarchy won only one stakes race, the 6f Arlington Lassie S at 2, and most of her descendents have had similar profiles - good at 2 and/or over distances of a mile or less. It takes a sire of serious stamina like Le Fabuleux or A.P. Indy to get anything like a stayer from this line. And in my mind, Jo'burg doesn't qualify.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Hey, Cobalt Blue is in my RTTR stable, has been since the beginning. Dam's side a trifle iffy (Cornish Prince, sire of third dam Queen to Be, was a closet quarter horse, always scares me when looking for stayers), but I loved Queen to Be's half-brother Fair Test, a real long-winded turfer out in SoCal when I was a newby.

LOL im sorry and not to be rude but that post was hilarious

[JJP]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

cobalt blue still not looking promising to you ann? LOL

There's a horse who's just waiting to burn money. I hope somebody decent shows up for the Ill Derby because its doubtful he's going to get another crawlfest pace, bunching a small field up all within 2 1/2 lengths.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by JJP

There's a horse who's just waiting to burn money. I hope somebody decent shows up for the Ill Derby because its doubtful he's going to get another crawlfest pace, bunching a small field up all within 2 1/2 lengths.

just waiting to burn money huhLOLOLOOL??????? first of all who says the horse needs to go to the front to win? did he go gate to wire when he broke his maiden, did he go gate to wire when he won the a other than? the answer is obviously no but apparently the only time youve payed attention was this past weekend. saturdays pace was honest enough with 3 quarters going in 11, the horse has shown versatility already as well, im likin him more and more