Top 5 Derby horses at this point

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Honestly? I think anyone that claims they make money by looking at horses physically is almost certainly lying. As my friend the wise guy says, and he is as strong an expert at the physical observation of horses as there is, " they still have to have the engine ". Could a very adept eye, along with astute handicapping skills, be an advantage? Yes, but the combination is extremely rare in this business. However, what isn't rare, are people that say they win....and don't.

I'm a believer in sticking to your strengths, and one of mine is NOT having any understanding of body language, so I ignore it. And, frankly, unless you know how a horse has looked in its past starts, its appearance on one day is irrelevent.

Well, I'm glad to be very well-acquainted with one if what you speak of is so rare. I really thought that more people could tell about these kinds of things, but they obviously can't. I guess that it is just one of those skills that you either possess from the get-go or you don't.

Obviously, we're talking about betting, but I do know a lot of people that make money off of looking at horses all of the time in other aspects of the horse industry.

I can somewhat agree with that statement. Usually, if I see a horse that I really like in the paddock or post parade based on those factors that I listed, I immediately go to the PPs and vice versa...if I see one in the PPs that I really like, I make sure that I get a good look at them in the paddock or post parade. When I look at a horse in a race, body language can be the breaking point, but it most certainly is not the total picture. I rely heavily on the race replays or the workouts from the two-year old sales too.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I'm not trying to bust her dreams... it's just that things are very different in the racing industry. I have a background in show jumpers, and while I know a few things in regards to that discipline, the same rules don't always apply to racing. A successful race horse doesn't have to win any conformation contests if he/she can run fast and get the job done, you know? I definitely look at conformation (sometimes to the dismay of others, lol), but I think I've finally learned my lesson that how a horse looks in the paddock and in the warm-up isn't always going to be a preview of how they're going to race.

Ever seen a photo of Kelso? A ewe-neck is only one of his 'faults'. Dr. Fager, it is said, paddled like a duck. His Felinity, Cougar II, didn't stretch out when he hit full stride - his head was held high and his knees came up like a trotter breaking stride. Lots of horses had better action, better conformation, but these horses ran faster and (believe it or not) sounder than most of them.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

So, you're actually playing the horses now? A few months ago, you weren't really betting on them. I'm curious as to how you're making a lot of money by watching a horse's body language in the paddock... the 4-H competitions that I won didn't pay me a cent, dammit!

When I won at the state, national, and world levels, I won lots of scholarships and savings bonds. I'm sad that it's over with. I guess I have to stick to being a Volunteer Leader now, but I like doing that

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

This is all a big joke at this point right. I mean really come on.

Hahahaha!!! LMAO

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Honestly? I think anyone that claims they make money by looking at horses physically is almost certainly lying. As my friend the wise guy says, and he is as strong an expert at the physical observation of horses as there is, " they still have to have the engine ". Could a very adept eye, along with astute handicapping skills, be an advantage? Yes, but the combination is extremely rare in this business. However, what isn't rare, are people that say they win....and don't.

I'm a believer in sticking to your strengths, and one of mine is NOT having any understanding of body language, so I ignore it. And, frankly, unless you know how a horse has looked in its past starts, its appearance on one day is irrelevent.

I find this perfectly reasonable.

If one can somehow keep track of, and be willing to admit a strength or weakness in a certain area of playing horses, one will be more likely to find a winning pattern (or for most of us, a pattern in which we do not lose as much). I think its kind of funny because its like cheating in golf playing alone. Someone comes in a says they broke par but they can ignore that mulligan on that horrible chip. Or that putt they did over because it hit a small unseen stick. Its really not being honest with yourself, which I find bizarre even though it may be a widespread characteristic.

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

When I won at the state, national, and world levels, I won lots of scholarships and savings bonds. I'm sad that it's over with. I guess I have to stick to being a Volunteer Leader now, but I like doing that

pillow is in the cat litter again... someone pull him out

Those statements with those pictures are very amusing.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by pgardn

pillow is in the cat litter again... someone pull him out

Those statements with those pictures are very amusing.

best leave him there..wouldn't want to pull him out before he is finished doing his business

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

A reason for leaving the seat up, sorry girls.

I wonder if she gets the piss shivers?

[Grits]

I have a dog, I don't have a cat...for God's sake would someone tell me what "piss shivers" are???????????????

I swear I thought I was through with this thread, and here I am at midnight killing over with laughs again.

Pillow you ain't right. I swear you're not. Where do you get this stuff?

LOLOLOL

[reese]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

How are you all hammering my dreams? I'm going to college to be a cardiologist, own a very nice horse, and hang out with some of the biggest names in Thoroughbred racing. I'm already in the middle of everything in the industry living the good life. In other words, I was being very facetious in my previous post...

Balletto's alter ego here

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

best leave him there..wouldn't want to pull him out before he is finished doing his business

OMG, this is truly the funniest thread ever.

[horseofcourse]

Let's get back on topic here...

1. Xchanger
2. Rutledge Cat
3. Teuflesberg
4. UD Ghetto
5. Grapelli

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Let's get back on topic here...

1. Xchanger
2. Rutledge Cat
3. Teuflesberg
4. UD Ghetto
5. Grapelli

Spoil sport!


Wait a sec.....I just read your list. Thanks for staying on board.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Spoil sport!


Wait a sec.....I just read your list. Thanks for staying on board.

LOL

Andy, you are on fire the last couple days.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

LOL

Andy, you are on fire the last couple days.

That list looked like the line-up for the 2007 Kentucky Derby in Hell.



Do you ever read the Esquire Dubious Achievement Awards? They always have one category that is " Now Showing at the Hell-Plaza Octoplex " where they list the most ridiculous movies of the year.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That list looked like the line-up for the 2007 Kentucky Derby in Hell.



Do you ever read the Esquire Dubious Achievement Awards? They always have one category that is " Now Showing at the Hell-Plaza Octoplex " where they list the most ridiculous movies of the year.

I've missed the Esquire DA Awards, but that first line was still damn funny.

Sometimes I find myself looking at the tote board before a race and wonder who in the hell is actually putting money on a horse that is hopelessly overmatched (on the board at 20-1 and should be 2000-1)....thankfully, I don't have to wonder anymore.