Top 5 Derby horses at this point

jjf1031 · #1 03-19-2007, 10:40 AM

Oh and my top 5 would be

1. NBLS
2. Any Given Saturday
3. Circular Quay
4. Notional
5. Liquidity- Hanging on here but will give him one more chance

Cajungator26 · #2 03-19-2007, 10:49 AM

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Oh and my top 5 would be

1. NBLS
2. Any Given Saturday
3. Circular Quay
4. Notional
5. Liquidity- Hanging on here but will give him one more chance

As should I, but his run in the LA Derby was awful. I think the talent is definitely there.

Seattleallstar · #3 03-19-2007, 11:52 AM

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As should I, but his run in the LA Derby was awful. I think the talent is definitely there.

im sorry to tell you LIquidity isnt the caliber horse you think he is, he will end up in the high level socal allowance races, and occasionally hit the board in grade 3's and possibly eek out a non graded stakes win down the road

Cajungator26 · #4 03-19-2007, 11:54 AM

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im sorry to tell you LIquidity isnt the caliber horse you think he is, he will end up in the high level socal allowance races, and occasionally hit the board in grade 3's and possibly eek out a non graded stakes win down the road

LMFAO!!! Don't make me laugh, Jerry. Please... I'm begging you.

Seattleallstar · #5 03-19-2007, 11:57 AM

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LMFAO!!! Don't make me laugh, Jerry. Please... I'm begging you.

LOL WHAT? are you happy now I mushed the horse into winning the Big Cap next year..lol

Cajungator26 · #6 03-19-2007, 12:01 PM

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LOL WHAT? are you happy now I mushed the horse into winning the Big Cap next year..lol

Heck yeah... you've put the good curse on him. Ha!!!

I actually like him a lot... I think he's very talented, but that doesn't mean anything if he can't utilize that talent. We'll see how he does in his next start.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #7 03-19-2007, 12:17 PM

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im sorry to tell you LIquidity isnt the caliber horse you think he is, he will end up in the high level socal allowance races, and occasionally hit the board in grade 3's and possibly eek out a non graded stakes win down the road

He's not the best of his crop, but I think that he is a better horse than what you have suggested. The thing that I don't like about this horse is that he has lost two head to head battles. He is better than he showed in his last start though because he didn't fire. I just hope that he came out of the race okay.

jjf1031 · #8 03-19-2007, 12:23 PM

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He's not the best of his crop, but I think that he is a better horse than what you have suggested. The thing that I don't like about this horse is that he has lost two head to head battles. He is better than he showed in his last start though because he didn't fire. I just hope that he came out of the race okay.

According to O'Neill he blames himself partyly for poor Louisiana effort. Not sure what to make of that. Needs to run well in SA derby or i fall off bandwagon at least as far as Derby goes.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #9 03-19-2007, 10:51 AM

My list in order:

1. Circular Quay (This horse is awesome).
2. Notional (So is this one).
3. Ravel (I don't like the fact that he will have only two starts; at least he will have run two 1 1/8 races though)
4. Any Given Saturday (I didn't like his action in the Tampa Bay Derby; he barely made my list)

Sam P. and Cobalt Blue are both improving, so I will be watching them carefully.

I like Great Hunter and Scat Daddy a little bit, and will have to see one more start from them. I will also be watching Adore the Gold and Hard Spun to see what they do, especially Hard Spun because I really don't think that Adore the Gold is good enough.

I don't think Nobiz Like Shobiz is good enough at this point. This horse is going to have to improve.

I will be very surprised in Street Sense is even in the starting gate.

I love both Curlin and Belgravia, but they are too rushed.

Stormello, Liquidity, and that horse that finished second to Circular Quay (I can't spell his name...Ket...; Stromello and Ket...are very good, tough horses though) will get burnt up on the front end. I don't like any others at this point, but will be watching everyone very closely.

Cajungator26 · #10 03-19-2007, 10:53 AM

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4. Any Given Saturday (I didn't like his action in the Tampa Bay Derby; he barely made my list)

What didn't you like about his action? He ran a very good race and literally got beaten by a head bob. He was also closer to the pace than Street Sense was. Just curious...

kentuckyrosesinmay · #11 03-19-2007, 10:58 AM

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What didn't you like about his action? He ran a very good race and literally got beaten by a head bob. He was also closer to the pace than Street Sense was. Just curious...

The way that he moved...It wasn't pretty. He's a good horse though so we will see...

Street Sense also does not move as pretty as he did before the BC Juvy either.

Cajungator26 · #12 03-19-2007, 11:01 AM

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The way that he moved...It wasn't pretty. He's a good horse though so we will see...

Street Sense also does not move as pretty as he did before the BC Juvy either.

Hmm... I couldn't disagree more. Did you hear this from Joel?

I was there and didn't see anything wrong with the way either one of them moved (and I'm a picky biatch.)

kentuckyrosesinmay · #13 03-19-2007, 11:13 AM

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Hmm... I couldn't disagree more. Did you hear this from Joel?

I was there and didn't see anything wrong with the way either one of them moved (and I'm a picky biatch.)

I haven't talked to Joel for a long time. It's been a month or more. Both horses aren't nearly as pretty moving as they were as two year olds. You can pick stuff like this out if you know what you are looking for. Both looked sore to me, especially Street Sense. He doesn't even look like the same horse because he hits the ground so quick now. Any Given Saturday also hits the ground a little quicker than he did as a two year old. He was much more fluid as a younger horse.

Cajungator26 · #14 03-19-2007, 11:20 AM

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I haven't talked to Joel for a long time. It's been a month or more. Both horses aren't nearly as pretty moving as they were as two year olds. You can pick stuff like this out if you know what you are looking for. Both looked sore to me, especially Street Sense. He doesn't even look like the same horse because he hits the ground so quick now. Any Given Saturday also hits the ground a little quicker than he did as a two year old. He was much more fluid as a younger horse.

LMFAO...

We were in the paddock right in front of both of them and NEITHER one looked sore in the slightest bit.

I was just curious if you'd heard this from Joel because I know he was there on Saturday, and I was curious as to how you were so certain both horses were sore since you weren't there. I thought maybe he had seen something and told you.

I also have a pretty good eye for sore horses (although I'm no expert on thoroughbreds) and if there had been something that stood out, I probably would have noticed.

SCUDSBROTHER · #15 03-19-2007, 02:02 PM

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What didn't you like about his action? He ran a very good race and literally got beaten by a head bob. He was also closer to the pace than Street Sense was. Just curious...

Twice now that he has lost the bob of the head.F'N Alydar I don't need.Lost twice now on him,and that will not happen again.