Very interesting nominations to hall of fame

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Silver Charm for me, he accoomplished more than Manila in my opinion. Inside Information, though every one of those mares would be fine.

Jock and trainers, none of the above?

Ditto on Silver Charm.

[saucon17]

I think those 4 ladies all deserve to be in the Hall of Fame,
I wish all will make it in the future and also didn't Jones
train Best Ball at point in his career

[Labeeb]

Grade/Group 1 wins against older horses:
Manila - 5
Silver Charm - 1

Silver Charm was a very horse against his own generation, but when pitted against the best older horses, not so great.

All Manila did was win the United Nations, Turf Classic, and BC Turf as a 3 year old, then follow it up with another UN win along with the Arlington Million the next year.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Labeeb

Grade/Group 1 wins against older horses:
Manila - 5
Silver Charm - 1

Silver Charm was a very horse against his own generation, but when pitted against the best older horses, not so great.

All Manila did was win the United Nations, Turf Classic, and BC Turf as a 3 year old, then follow it up with another UN win along with the Arlington Million the next year.

Silver Charm won the most important race in the United States. He also was within length or so of winning the Triple Crown. He may have only won a single G1 against older, but it did happen to come in the world's richest race.

Like it or not, dirt counts a lot more than turf in this country, and wins in the Classics for 3yos count a lot more than wins in races like the United Nations.

[pweizer]

Silver Charm did also win the Dubai World Cup as a four year old beating older horses. He is the only Kentucky Derby winner to do so. The race was new so it wasn't a group one race at that time, but was as tough as any race run that year.

Paul

[Labeeb]

Originally Posted by pweizer

Silver Charm did also win the Dubai World Cup as a four year old beating older horses. He is the only Kentucky Derby winner to do so. The race was new so it wasn't a group one race at that time, but was as tough as any race run that year.

Paul

Right, that being counted as his one Grade 1 win over older horses. The Clark was then a Grade 2 race. But I'll give him that one, so it brings him to 2.

I'm not trying to disparage Silver Charm, as he was the first near of the string of near misses I witnessed at Belmont. He's a very good horse. I just happen to think that Manila's resume is a bit more impressive. But I can certainly understand why those who think Silver Charm deserves the nod, and he probably will get in before a horse like Manila.