Flower Alley

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Believe me, I am a big " first time gelding " player and have done well at times in the past playing that angle almost exclusively. However, sorry if I am just a little suspicious of that being the only reason that horse made his overnight transformation. He is hardly the only member of that barn that has been running out of his skin lately. I am not accusing anybody of anything, just looking at the results, and a slew of sudden speed figure jumps always gives me at least a little cause for pause.

I can understand where you are coming from...............I personally like Steve Asmussen and regard him as one of if not the best trainer in the game...i apprecaite the money, time and energy he puts into this game...it is very enviable and I think very highly of the guy and regard him as a true Ambassador of our sport, but I'm not blind and understand that things happen in this sport...I'm not saying that Steve is guilty, but things do happen in this sport like any other....he probably has close to half a million horses under his mangement and is spread from coast to coast......It is really impressive and unbelieveable to see him manage that herculean jugernaut of a stable that he has, and I'm sure that he can't oversee every little thing but must be accountable for everything.....

I know EvD racing and I know No End in Sight, and I'll just say that I doubt that Steve would condone cheating with drugs on a filly running for $10K claimers at EvD with what he has to lose.....I just know him and that is my opinion, but to say that he or any others trainer hasn't knowingly or unknowingly cheated is just plain wrong...they alll probably have done something at some poit..

Hell, I remember a couple of years ago when Neil Howard got a suspension or fine at Fair Grounds for something, and he was so embarrased that he wanted reporters to come and get his story out.....Neil is one of the most honest and genuinely great guys on the backside and he would never knowingly cheat.....it happens

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I can understand where you are coming from...............I personally like Steve Asmussen and regard him as one of if not the best trainer in the game...i apprecaite the money, time and energy he puts into this game...it is very enviable and I think very highly of the guy and regard him as a true Ambassador of our sport, but I'm not blind and understand that things happen in this sport...I'm not saying that Steve is guilty, but things do happen in this sport like any other....he probably has close to half a million horses under his mangement and is spread from coast to coast......It is really impressive and unbelieveable to see him manage that herculean jugernaut of a stable that he has, and I'm sure that he can't oversee every little thing but must be accountable for everything.....

I know EvD racing and I know No End in Sight, and I'll just say that I doubt that Steve would condone cheating with drugs on a filly running for $10K claimers at EvD with what he has to lose.....I just know him and that is my opinion, but to say that he or any others trainer hasn't knowingly or unknowingly cheated is just plain wrong...they alll probably have done something at some poit..

Hell, I remember a couple of years ago when Neil Howard got a suspension or fine at Fair Grounds for something, and he was so embarrased that he wanted reporters to come and get his story out.....Neil is one of the most honest and genuinely great guys on the backside and he would never knowingly cheat.....it happens

I'm hoping the "half a million horses under his management" comment was hyperbole. That's a big number of horses, even by Assmussen standards.

[ddthetide]

any word on Declans Moon or Bellemy Road?

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I'm hoping the "half a million horses under his management" comment was hyperbole. That's a big number of horses, even by Assmussen standards.

Oops, it wasn't meant to be a hyperbole but I goofed up....I meant half a thousand.....screwed that one up

...still, that is A LOT of horse flesh to manage....

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Oops, it wasn't meant to be a hyperbole but I goofed up....I meant half a thousand.....screwed that one up

...still, that is A LOT of horse flesh to manage....

Yeah, that's what I thought. I got a chuckle trying to figure where a guy would place half a million head. lol

But seriously, even at five hundred or so, I don't see how these big guys do it. They have to employ very good people and possess better than average management skills. If you look at a Pletcher or Assmussen, these are substantial enterprises that they are running. Quite successfully I might add.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Yeah, that's what I thought. I got a chuckle trying to figure where a guy would place half a million head. lol

But seriously, even at five hundred or so, I don't see how these big guys do it. They have to employ very good people and possess better than average management skills. If you look at a Pletcher or Assmussen, these are substantial enterprises that they are running. Quite successfully I might add.

I laughed when I saw that too. I knew what he meant though It is hard to manage a barn with 40 horses. I can't imagine having anymore than that. These guys like Asmussen and Pletcher are phenomenal.

[2Hot4TV]

I went over this whole thread and we all know that SOMEONE needs to GIVE IT A REST, ya tata ya tata ya tata, I'm right and you're wrong. Give them a soapbox and they want to shine shoes.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

wow this thread has gone all over the place! first off yes SOOOOOOO MUCH happens on the backside that people that arent on the backside dont and never will know about. to say the backstretch is soap opera-esque is a understatement to say the least. i dont know asmussen personally and i do have tremendous respect for him as far as training the animals goes but 1 thing im not fond of with him if its true and thats that i heard that some jocks who ride for him he actually forces them to pay him a %, not totally sure its true but ive heard this from some inside the game and its not something i like especially considering all the money steve and his family already have.


next it isnt that easy to just juice a horse and make them run. some do try and cheat but they still dont win the races, lol funny that they cant even cheat right but its the truth