Idol top 12...my thoughts

horseofcourse · #1 03-14-2007, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

They all stink... not a very talented bunch IMHO.

I think Lakisha and Melinda are two of the best ever to appear on the show. Incredible singers. But I agree that overall it is a very weak group take away the top 2. In other years the 5th through 10th best were much better than what we see this year.

somerfrost · #2 03-14-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I think Lakisha and Melinda are two of the best ever to appear on the show. Incredible singers. But I agree that overall it is a very weak group take away the top 2. In other years the 5th through 10th best were much better than what we see this year.

LaKisha and Melinda are certainly 1-2, Jordin has really impressed however and her performance last night was great I thought so I'd now say there is a top 3 with all others trailing. It's still a long process and as they sing different genre others may step up but right now I don't see anybody but those three winning. I think that folks that come here and slam the entire group just like making blanket statements to be heard, folks like the Idol judges (and like them or not, they are successful in the business for a reason) are obviously VERY impressed with the top 3! The biggest surprise to me was Haley...I was ready to put her with Sanjaya until her performance last night...she forgot the words and that caused her to have some pitch issues but overall she was really pretty good...Simon nailed it, she has the "IT" factor, something about her last night made me sit up and notice...and that a week after Simon ridiculed her saying he didn't even know her name...something changed last night and he saw it...she could be voted off tonight but if not, she has something now to build on and could really be the dark horse...not saying she can win but certainly she is already better than any of the boys and Stephanie and Gina are catchable so that would mean only the top three seem out of her reach.

brianwspencer · #3 03-14-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Haley...I was ready to put her with Sanjaya until her performance last night...she forgot the words and that caused her to have some pitch issues but overall she was really pretty good...Simon nailed it, she has the "IT" factor, something about her last night made me sit up and notice...and that a week after Simon ridiculed her saying he didn't even know her name...something changed last night and he saw it...she could be voted off tonight but if not, she has something now to build on and could really be the dark horse...not saying she can win but certainly she is already better than any of the boys and Stephanie and Gina are catchable so that would mean only the top three seem out of her reach.

I felt really out of touch with the judges last night, when I usually agree with them.

I still didn't like Haley very much and was surprised at how much Simon liked her (though if you watched it again, you'd notice that he wasn't quite as nice as it comes off. Most of it was very backhanded. He essentially said she was "not that awful" when it all got translated, but that she had a "presence."). I knew watching it that Gina's performance wouldn't get people really hot over it, but I can't explain it, but I thought it was incredible. That, and I thought Stephanie was the best last night. Who knew that someone I thought was very bland before tonight would grab my top spot?!

<3 Jordin.

somerfrost · #4 03-14-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I felt really out of touch with the judges last night, when I usually agree with them.

I still didn't like Haley very much and was surprised at how much Simon liked her (though if you watched it again, you'd notice that he wasn't quite as nice as it comes off. Most of it was very backhanded. He essentially said she was "not that awful" when it all got translated, but that she had a "presence."). I knew watching it that Gina's performance wouldn't get people really hot over it, but I can't explain it, but I thought it was incredible. That, and I thought Stephanie was the best last night. Who knew that someone I thought was very bland before tonight would grab my top spot?!

<3 Jordin.

Yeah, I think the fact that you and I saw different things last night underscores my point that this isn't nearly as bad a group as some people pretend. Stephanie left out the disco part of a disco song...I don't understand that. She has an excellent voice but she just left me empty last night...no doubt the girl can sing though! Gina is Gina...I like her and she belongs but I think she's limited. I don't know...I was really down on Haley and last night changed that for me...she has something that came out for the first time, we'll see if she can keep it...and remember the words!

brianwspencer · #5 03-14-2007, 12:42 PM

Well, that or it's more like a 10K seller at Hawthorne in January -- the only ones who are bunched closely are the three favorites, and the rest of the stragglers are fighting it out for a 4th place check.

That's more how I view it.

ArlJim78 · #6 03-14-2007, 01:26 PM

I wasn't paying real close attention last night, but one thing about the judges bothered me. Its like they aren't consistent in their advice.
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How many times have you heard them say "that sounded ordinary", "like a karoake version", "you didn't make it your own", "it wasn't original", etc.

But then other times they slam people who try to make an original arrangement like Chris S did last night. They were like "oh we were expecting it to sound like Diana's version, this was so different". But isn't that what being original is, being different? I gave him some credit for his version of that song, actually. To me it was original and was not bad.

Just my observtion that they seem to give conflicting advice on this sometimes.

somerfrost · #7 03-14-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I wasn't paying real close attention last night, but one thing about the judges bothered me. Its like they aren't consistent in their advice.
Example;
How many times have you heard them say "that sounded ordinary", "like a karoake version", "you didn't make it your own", "it wasn't original", etc.

But then other times they slam people who try to make an original arrangement like Chris S did last night. They were like "oh we were expecting it to sound like Diana's version, this was so different". But isn't that what being original is, being different? I gave him some credit for his version of that song, actually. To me it was original and was not bad.

Just my observtion that they seem to give conflicting advice on this sometimes.

Well, I know it sounds like that but there is a big difference between good and different...what the judges are looking for is something that sets a singer apart from the others, a uniqueness...but it doesn't matter how different you are if you stink! The folks last night tried different things with arrangement, tempo, key...but none were very successful. Haley was the one who came across as somewhat unique last night...hard to pinpoint exactly what it was but she had a presence on stage, it could have been the dress, the way she moved, her expressions, the way she "felt" the song...probably a bit of all those plus other factors...suddenly, she was noticed! LaKisha and Melinda already have that uniqueness, they have "it"...Jordin is close. In the end, America will select the next Idol based on that uniqueness as much as voice.