Idol top 12...my thoughts

Cajungator26 · #1 03-13-2007, 10:24 PM

They all stink... not a very talented bunch IMHO.

somerfrost · #2 03-13-2007, 10:26 PM

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They all stink... not a very talented bunch IMHO.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would say that about the top 3...everybody has their opinion but I think all three may well become stars! I agree that after that, I don't see many with a chance....

GPK · #3 03-13-2007, 10:30 PM

here we go again.......

brianwspencer · #4 03-13-2007, 10:34 PM

sorry I didn't see your post before posting my "horseplayer's perspective" thread -- I was typing up my writeup when you posted!

Even we disagree a bit tonight. The top 3 were agreed upon pretty well though!

Good night for my girl Jordin!

Samarta · #5 03-13-2007, 10:47 PM

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sorry I didn't see your post before posting my "horseplayer's perspective" thread -- I was typing up my writeup when you posted!

Even we disagree a bit tonight. The top 3 were agreed upon pretty well though!

Good night for my girl Jordin!

10 out of 12 sucked....but you know who sucks the worst? The judges for not picking better people to begin with. This season reminds of a high school full of let's say basketball talent. People don't go out for the team because of the coach and you could end up picking 5 guys up in the hallways beat them. That's the way this show is this season. You could probably find 10 people in the audience that could sing better....

brianwspencer · #6 03-13-2007, 10:50 PM

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10 out of 12 sucked....but you know who sucks the worst? The judges for not picking better people to begin with. This season reminds of a high school full of let's say basketball talent. People don't go out for the team because of the coach and you could end up picking 5 guys up in the hallways beat them. That's the way this show is this season. You could probably find 10 people in the audience that could sing better....

Ha, I was joking around tonight during the show about my own vocal ability. I have always said (since I was 18) that I think I'm a better songwriter than a singer by far. I then said that most of the people in Idol are good singers, they just pale in comparison to the good ones. I can honestly say, for the first time, that I am a better singer than Sanjaya.

What a ****ing ego boost.

They should just eliminate all the guys but Blake, and have those seven sing for five weeks and then start eliminating people again. I'm so so so bored with half of each show.

somerfrost · #7 03-13-2007, 10:58 PM

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Ha, I was joking around tonight during the show about my own vocal ability. I have always said (since I was 18) that I think I'm a better songwriter than a singer by far. I then said that most of the people in Idol are good singers, they just pale in comparison to the good ones. I can honestly say, for the first time, that I am a better singer than Sanjaya.

What a ****ing ego boost.

They should just eliminate all the guys but Blake, and have those seven sing for five weeks and then start eliminating people again. I'm so so so bored with half of each show.

I kinda agree...there are 6-7 folks who deserve to be here and three who are immensely talented, I think folks that knock the entire group are indeed doing what we hear every year about the three year olds. Please tell me who has been more impressive in Idol history than the top 3 this year? My favorite is Ms Underwood and she has the sales and awards to tell me that I'm not alone but these three girls are special! Melinda...anyone who doesn't like her is looking for something foreign to me, Jordin just keeps getting better each week and LaKisha proved tonight that she can do more than simply rely on her big voice....I love God Bless The Child but I was afraid she'd oversing it...but despite the big arena and the juices flowing, she held back and sang it perfectly....those three performances match any I've heard on Idol!

GenuineRisk · #8 03-13-2007, 10:50 PM

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10 out of 12 sucked....but you know who sucks the worst? The judges for not picking better people to begin with. This season reminds of a high school full of let's say basketball talent. People don't go out for the team because of the coach and you could end up picking 5 guys up in the hallways beat them. That's the way this show is this season. You could probably find 10 people in the audience that could sing better....

You know, though, it just varies year to year. I know we're gearing up for auditions for the theater program at my job, and every year is different. Some years we have trouble finding ten decent actors; some years we're having to turn down oodles of GREAT people because there are ten even better than they (at which point I grumble, "Where were you last year, darnit?") It's really odd how some years are just better than others. I would think Idol is the same way-some years it's a deep talent pool, and some years it's not.

Hmm... kinda like the three-year-olds crop.

brianwspencer · #9 03-13-2007, 10:51 PM

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Hmm... kinda like the three-year-olds crop.

Kinda like your face.

Ha, sorry I've just always wondered how it would feel to say that to someone online

Samarta · #10 03-13-2007, 10:52 PM

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You know, though, it just varies year to year. I know we're gearing up for auditions for the theater program at my job, and every year is different. Some years we have trouble finding ten decent actors; some years we're having to turn down oodles of GREAT people because there are ten even better than they (at which point I grumble, "Where were you last year, darnit?") It's really odd how some years are just better than others. I would think Idol is the same way-some years it's a deep talent pool, and some years it's not.

Hmm... kinda like the three-year-olds crop.

the way to fix that is the judges need to have more of a deciding roll when they go from 24 to 12.......

horseofcourse · #11 03-14-2007, 11:43 AM

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They all stink... not a very talented bunch IMHO.

I think Lakisha and Melinda are two of the best ever to appear on the show. Incredible singers. But I agree that overall it is a very weak group take away the top 2. In other years the 5th through 10th best were much better than what we see this year.

somerfrost · #12 03-14-2007, 12:55 PM

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I think Lakisha and Melinda are two of the best ever to appear on the show. Incredible singers. But I agree that overall it is a very weak group take away the top 2. In other years the 5th through 10th best were much better than what we see this year.

LaKisha and Melinda are certainly 1-2, Jordin has really impressed however and her performance last night was great I thought so I'd now say there is a top 3 with all others trailing. It's still a long process and as they sing different genre others may step up but right now I don't see anybody but those three winning. I think that folks that come here and slam the entire group just like making blanket statements to be heard, folks like the Idol judges (and like them or not, they are successful in the business for a reason) are obviously VERY impressed with the top 3! The biggest surprise to me was Haley...I was ready to put her with Sanjaya until her performance last night...she forgot the words and that caused her to have some pitch issues but overall she was really pretty good...Simon nailed it, she has the "IT" factor, something about her last night made me sit up and notice...and that a week after Simon ridiculed her saying he didn't even know her name...something changed last night and he saw it...she could be voted off tonight but if not, she has something now to build on and could really be the dark horse...not saying she can win but certainly she is already better than any of the boys and Stephanie and Gina are catchable so that would mean only the top three seem out of her reach.

brianwspencer · #13 03-14-2007, 01:08 PM

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Haley...I was ready to put her with Sanjaya until her performance last night...she forgot the words and that caused her to have some pitch issues but overall she was really pretty good...Simon nailed it, she has the "IT" factor, something about her last night made me sit up and notice...and that a week after Simon ridiculed her saying he didn't even know her name...something changed last night and he saw it...she could be voted off tonight but if not, she has something now to build on and could really be the dark horse...not saying she can win but certainly she is already better than any of the boys and Stephanie and Gina are catchable so that would mean only the top three seem out of her reach.

I felt really out of touch with the judges last night, when I usually agree with them.

I still didn't like Haley very much and was surprised at how much Simon liked her (though if you watched it again, you'd notice that he wasn't quite as nice as it comes off. Most of it was very backhanded. He essentially said she was "not that awful" when it all got translated, but that she had a "presence."). I knew watching it that Gina's performance wouldn't get people really hot over it, but I can't explain it, but I thought it was incredible. That, and I thought Stephanie was the best last night. Who knew that someone I thought was very bland before tonight would grab my top spot?!

<3 Jordin.

somerfrost · #14 03-14-2007, 01:23 PM

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I felt really out of touch with the judges last night, when I usually agree with them.

I still didn't like Haley very much and was surprised at how much Simon liked her (though if you watched it again, you'd notice that he wasn't quite as nice as it comes off. Most of it was very backhanded. He essentially said she was "not that awful" when it all got translated, but that she had a "presence."). I knew watching it that Gina's performance wouldn't get people really hot over it, but I can't explain it, but I thought it was incredible. That, and I thought Stephanie was the best last night. Who knew that someone I thought was very bland before tonight would grab my top spot?!

<3 Jordin.

Yeah, I think the fact that you and I saw different things last night underscores my point that this isn't nearly as bad a group as some people pretend. Stephanie left out the disco part of a disco song...I don't understand that. She has an excellent voice but she just left me empty last night...no doubt the girl can sing though! Gina is Gina...I like her and she belongs but I think she's limited. I don't know...I was really down on Haley and last night changed that for me...she has something that came out for the first time, we'll see if she can keep it...and remember the words!

brianwspencer · #15 03-14-2007, 01:42 PM

Well, that or it's more like a 10K seller at Hawthorne in January -- the only ones who are bunched closely are the three favorites, and the rest of the stragglers are fighting it out for a 4th place check.

That's more how I view it.

ArlJim78 · #16 03-14-2007, 02:26 PM

I wasn't paying real close attention last night, but one thing about the judges bothered me. Its like they aren't consistent in their advice.
Example;
How many times have you heard them say "that sounded ordinary", "like a karoake version", "you didn't make it your own", "it wasn't original", etc.

But then other times they slam people who try to make an original arrangement like Chris S did last night. They were like "oh we were expecting it to sound like Diana's version, this was so different". But isn't that what being original is, being different? I gave him some credit for his version of that song, actually. To me it was original and was not bad.

Just my observtion that they seem to give conflicting advice on this sometimes.