why not have a p4 carryover at gulfstream

[robfla]

Originally Posted by point given

1 - I may be in error here, as I personally donot consider Gulfstream a major track, BUT, 2 websites i visited consider it an "A" level track. Basically, I consider the NY tracks, Kentucky tracks, SCal tracks and Arlington to be major. Take a look in the DRF at the purse values in their chart . The Bodog and Betcris sites consider Gulf an "A" http://www.bodog.com/racebook/guide/...ing-tracks.jsp
http://www.betcris.com/horses-thorou...ack-lists.aspx

GP is DEFINATELY an "A" track. this to me is not debatable. Yes, other tracks may have higher purses, but that could change next year with the slot money.

Originally Posted by point given

2. You may be right about yesterdays p4 being the only one all meet, but the way the racing secretary is putting them together, it may happen again. Magna has been screwing with the west coast P6 sequence of races and with the Magna 5 races to make them tough and guarantee large payoffs and carryovers. I don't cotton to this and donot play the bets anymore for this reason, but don't let me hold youback in pursuing it, its just my own take on it. They are catering to large bettors or groups who put together large tickets. Its all about churn.

Agreed with regards to the Magna 5. I haven't played it this year due to exactly what you mentioned. It is for the whales.

Originally Posted by point given

3. As far as a P4 carryover not being fair to the bettors who had 3 of 4; horse pucky ! They would get a conso, just like the p6 bettors get a conso for 5 of 6. They also have the opportunity to get involved in the next P4 the track offers . and don't think that they wouldn't relish a large carryover pool, just as the p6 bettors do. The P4 is the poor mans P6. There are 2 less races and the minimum bet is $1 instead of $2 ,so the little guy can buy more combinations. Don't get me wrong though, I would welcome an early P4 as well, on say the 2nd thru 5th races, and the late on the 6-9th. I tend to think I wouldnot play it as much though, as the early races, are usually cheap races and the late ones more formful. This is the reason I'm not playing the p4 there much anymore too, since they started putting cheap races into the p4 sequence. If I like the sequence, I'll step up and bet, but lately it hasnot been the case.

I don't think the other tracks that have a carryover on the P4 give out a conso for 3 outa 4.. This is just a guess.

I kinda like MCL25k races to use in horizontal wagers. Thats where the value is. True you need deeper pockets, but doesn't it make sense to put more into the P4 and less into the previous races.

So, lets use the number 200 as a bankroll. instead of playing 30,30,30,30,80 throughout the day in pick3's and then the pick 4. I suggest playing 20,20,20,20 in pick 3's and 120 in the pick 4. - better yet.. if there were 2 pick 4's i'd just as soon make them my only two plays