"Inside" information & misguided public?

Grits · #1 03-11-2007, 10:48 PM

Another trainer in at GP that I've noted and am not at all familiar with this season is Javier Negrete? Jeffrey Sanchez rides.

I don't have anything in front of me tonight, but if I recall, he's popped huge. I've found myself thinking, "hey where's this one from?" A former assistant possibly?

Anyone else notice him?

The Bid · #2 03-11-2007, 10:54 PM

Hes a nice guy. I dont know where hes from, has a slight accent, but sharp

Grits · #3 03-11-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Hes a nice guy. I dont know where hes from, has a slight accent, but sharp

I don't recall seeing him at GP prior to this year.

Linny · #4 03-11-2007, 11:25 PM

Speaking of firsters... i was at the Big A yesterday with a skeptical (and often right) friend who works for an AQU trainer. She had the "outofthebox" firster that "dead heated" for second. The works were average but the breeding was great for a debut win. She doubted the works and was rewarded (though I think she was screwed by the DH, the horse ran second

) with the EX.
I had a bad day with maidens as Triumphal looked like the goods to me and was passed late. The winner saved some folks who really bet the other 1/2 of the entry. I did get to feed Triumphal some peppermints after the races and he thinks the jock asked him way too soon!

As for Bush, didn't he used to win first out at about 15%? If that's the case, he may have just hit a patch where some didn't fire as expected or ran into buzz saws. He may also have gotten a few "different" horses ie: a few owners decided to focus on distance racing or grass, where "win early" is very hard.

blackthroatedwind · #5 03-11-2007, 11:30 PM

Yeah, Bush was definitely better with firsters in the past. He's certainly more than capable with firsters and his current stats are definitely misleading.

The money that horse took, however, superceded everything else. If Tommy Walsh can win a 2YO maiden race on Traver's Day, the 10-1 Ommedon, then anything is possible. That horse may have been the livest double digit firster of all time.

Linny · #6 03-11-2007, 11:35 PM

When a Tommy Walsh firster is 10-1 it is live!
Thats like a Pletcher horse at 2-5.

10 pnt move up · #7 03-12-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yeah, Bush was definitely better with firsters in the past. He's certainly more than capable with firsters and his current stats are definitely misleading.

The money that horse took, however, superceded everything else. If Tommy Walsh can win a 2YO maiden race on Traver's Day, the 10-1 Ommedon, then anything is possible. That horse may have been the livest double digit firster of all time.

why do i remember that race?

Grits · #8 03-12-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Grits

Another trainer in at GP that I've noted and am not at all familiar with this season is Javier Negrete? Jeffrey Sanchez rides.

I don't have anything in front of me tonight, but if I recall, he's popped huge. I've found myself thinking, "hey where's this one from?" A former assistant possibly?

Anyone else notice him?

Guys, I have to do this I can't help it, besides I don't know if everyone is reading the ex/fave thread.

Negrete ran one again today. Going off at 133/1 and running 3rd, leading to the top of the stretch, where he was caught.

Time was nothing special for this group, still, he's getting pieces..