Pletcher KY Derby Entrants

jpops757 · #1 03-11-2007, 10:36 AM

I wonder how much insurance is in force on just his 3yr olds?

horseofcourse · #2 03-11-2007, 11:34 AM

Any Given Saturday, Circular Quay, Scat Daddy, and Ravel (his BIG 4) will all be running in the Derby barring injury. I feel 2 of the other 4 mentioned will also be there. I say 6 Pletcher horses will be in the Derby.

King Glorious · #3 03-11-2007, 12:45 PM

The only Pletcher horse with a shot to win a TC race is Circular Quay. He's one of only two horses that can win the Derby period. The other is Notional. Circular Quay will either win the Derby AND Preakness OR he'll win the Belmont only. That's it. Book it.

randallscott35 · #4 03-11-2007, 12:47 PM

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The only Pletcher horse with a shot to win a TC race is Circular Quay. He's one of only two horses that can win the Derby period. The other is Notional. Circular Quay will either win the Derby AND Preakness OR he'll win the Belmont only. That's it. Book it.

I disagree and I bet him in the Juvy...But a horse like that, even Velaz said needs the trip. And with 20 horses in the race and that style he is going to have trouble overcoming it. Stalkers have such a distinct advantage in the Derby. Those Monarchos types need both the trip and the pace. You might get one. You rarely get two.

King Glorious · #5 03-11-2007, 01:23 PM

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I disagree and I bet him in the Juvy...But a horse like that, even Velaz said needs the trip. And with 20 horses in the race and that style he is going to have trouble overcoming it. Stalkers have such a distinct advantage in the Derby. Those Monarchos types need both the trip and the pace. You might get one. You rarely get two.

His style will compromise his chances. But I think he's so much better than all of the rest of them, except for Notional, that he'll be able to spot them lengths and beat them.

Grits · #6 03-11-2007, 01:28 PM

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I say 6 Pletcher horses will be in the Derby.

And I say, "that's a serious, serious pipe dream." In the biggest sorta way.

mnmark · #7 03-11-2007, 01:39 PM

I think he will have 5 no problem based on earnings. Could be up to 7 if he decides to run Rags to Riches. If that fillie runs in the derby there will be great value in the Oaks futures as she will take a ton of money driving up the prices of others.

King Glorious · #8 03-11-2007, 01:44 PM

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I think he will have 5 no problem based on earnings. Could be up to 7 if he decides to run Rags to Riches. If that fillie runs in the derby there will be great value in the Oaks futures as she will take a ton of money driving up the prices of others.

No way she's less than double-figures to win even if she's in there.

#9 03-11-2007, 05:31 PM

Grapelli is on your grocery store shelves. Look in the olive oil section.

I thought Lucas had the record w/ 5 in 1986 (Grindstone's win). I dont know if Zito had 5, what year?

zippyneedsawin · #10 03-11-2007, 05:48 PM

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Grapelli is on your grocery store shelves. Look in the olive oil section.

I thought Lucas had the record w/ 5 in 1986 (Grindstone's win). I dont know if Zito had 5, what year?

Zito had five in 2005.. Bellamy Road(7th), Andromeda's Hero (8th), Noble Causeway (14th), "the great" Sun King (15th), and High Fly (20th)