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Your absolutely crazy, not a chance 9 33.33%
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Old 03-08-2007, 11:13 PM
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Good luck man. King's Drama will be a play against for me like he has been for much of his US racing career. I think Sweet Return has a good shot at stealing it. In the LA Derby I think you are looking at zero value on CQ. He'll be the favorite and IMO around 8-5. I think the others have caught up talentwise with him and I just don't see enough pace to set up his rally. Also Gomez knows him better than anyone, so don't expect to see him let CQ get first jump on him.
cool, but CQ doesn't need first run....I should have clarified that CQ should have some value in the pick threes because I thnk people will go 3-4 deep in this race. I consider value because I think it is a one horse race
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Old 03-09-2007, 12:17 AM
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If you win I will lose.

I am pitching King's Drama. I just don't really like him. Hendrix may well have beaten him last time if he had a clean trip. Einstein may be the best horse in the race, and while two weeks is fast, he is still very dangerous. With the relative lack of pace he should get good position. I will also use Sweet Return and Hendrix and possibly Naissance Royale though she is more likely to suck up for second or third.

Circular Quay? He can win but I will certainly use the second and third finishers from the Risen Star. Zanjero moved too soon and gets a good rider switch. Plus, while I don't think much of him, doesn't it concern you that Soaring By could be loose? It's not like he's exactly facing proven tigers here.

On another note....who does the FG morning line? It is positively hilariously bad. My personal favorites? Patriot Act at 5-1 and ( the best ) Cloudy's Knight at 5-1 ( with Naissance Royale at 12-1 ).
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Old 03-09-2007, 04:23 AM
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Where's this option in the poll?:

D. I don't believe for a second this will be Scav's only bet of the weekend.

GL bro. I'll be rooting for you.
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Old 03-09-2007, 01:09 PM
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Where's this option in the poll?:

D. I don't believe for a second this will be Scav's only bet of the weekend.

GL bro. I'll be rooting for you.
It actually is Mike, I am kinda busy this weekend and I really want to attack this sequence, and I want to play Fairgrounds (haven't played it at all this year) so I said "F it" I am going to unload on this sequence, run up to trackside and play the wager, go get the hair cut, spend some time to show the Envoy some tenderloving care, and hope to catch one....Going up to trackside with $130, leaving with $0, and then making the 2.4 mile trip back up there to collect my $1500
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Old 03-09-2007, 01:43 PM
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Well,Scav, the most disappointing part of this is that you think C.Q. was gunna win his last race(if not shut off.) That is simply ****** -like judgement.

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Old 03-09-2007, 02:07 PM
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I can't speak for anyone else here but I am just glad to hear about the haircut.
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Old 03-09-2007, 02:11 PM
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It actually is Mike, I am kinda busy this weekend and I really want to attack this sequence, and I want to play Fairgrounds (haven't played it at all this year) so I said "F it" I am going to unload on this sequence, run up to trackside and play the wager, go get the hair cut, spend some time to show the Envoy some tenderloving care, and hope to catch one....Going up to trackside with $130, leaving with $0, and then making the 2.4 mile trip back up there to collect my $1500
Unfortunately I think your total mileage to trackside will only be 4.8 miles and not 9.6 miles.

Kings Drama two lengths better than the whole field? Come on now, how many open length winners in high end turf stakes do you find? Not many. This will be a heads and necks finish with multiple horses involved if you ask me.

And keying CQ? To me six horses have a somewhat reasonable chance in that race. Its deep.
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Old 03-09-2007, 02:27 PM
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I keep changing my mind on the Fairgrounds sequence.
In the Turf, Sweet Return hasn't hit the board in back-to-back starts in well over 2 years. Einstein might be compromised by his post, and I don't know what to think about the Pletcher horse on the rail.
Naissace Royal might be a toss since she's facing the boys, but Gomez aboard makes her more interesting.
You would think the Drysdale gelding MacDuff isn't live here, as Gomez would have taken the mount if he was. King's Drama looks very tough, too.

In the Oaks, Octaive is going to have to prove me wrong, as I haven't been impressed with her yet. I'll take Zophie and Bertie in this one.

In the Derby, I'm taking CQ and Zanjero. I think the pace might be quicker than anticipated, and the long stretch can only help.
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Old 03-09-2007, 02:38 PM
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Scuds, watch the race again and see what JV was doing, he was calmly moving him outside to make a huge run, he had a ton of horse IMO

AJ, sheetwise, he is 1.5-2 lengths better, I am expecting him to run a flat Zero here, which will win this race, he is going to be sitting 2nd/3rd into a soft pace and will get first run. In no way do I disagree with you regarding turf racing and I don't necessarily think KD will win by 2 lengths, but I do think he will win easily.

BTW, gotta keep it clean, ladies will be around tomorrow night with the Spring Break type party breaks out at the bar, essentially planning for my acceptance speech of greatest gambler of all time.

I have always caught myself forcing something that isn't there, trying to beat nut horses that I convince myself aren't the nuts. I have a strong opinion in CQ winning THIS RACE, not sure what he will turn out to be, but this specific race, with the way that Pletcher is going right now, I don't see how FROM A FINANCIAL end you could invest $12-$20 per $1 ticket into this race. If I had to rank the legs of the sequence from most confident to less confident, I am most confident in the 8th race, then the 7th, then the 9th. I just can't financially put $12 into a ticket that is going to pay $36 per $1, I would rather be risky and play the $4-$6 ticket multiple times.
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Old 03-09-2007, 02:45 PM
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I can't decide which will come first for you scav's, the sitcom or the movie.

gotta be one or the other, there's good material in there.
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Old 03-09-2007, 04:26 AM
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Tom,

The Louisiana Derby doesn't look like a place to be singling to me. All but one have a legit chance to win, and the obvious lack of speed there makes the closers like Quay and Birdbird less appealling. I tend to agree with Andy that Soaring By, though giving away some experience versus these, is a huge threat on or close to the front end under the rider who milked Peace Rules around this oval 4 years ago. Liquidity is the other possible beneficiary of an uncertain pace scenario as he has shown the ability to adjust to the activity in front of him. And it looks like Ketchikan can stay in touch with any pace and is fastest coming in...

This is a remarkably well-matched group top to bottom.
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Old 03-09-2007, 05:42 AM
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i find this interesting because, a thread earlier this week, some on here were talking about Ketchikan being a monster and a walk over in this race. my question is, was Ketchikan over-rated in the previous thread?
i like Liquidity and not a fan of CQ.
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Old 03-09-2007, 05:55 AM
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After looking at the entries, this card reminds me of last Saturday at Gulf... All Pletcher, All the time? may be time to handicap Gulfstream.
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Old 03-09-2007, 06:49 PM
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If you win I will lose.

I am pitching King's Drama. I just don't really like him. Hendrix may well have beaten him last time if he had a clean trip. Einstein may be the best horse in the race, and while two weeks is fast, he is still very dangerous. With the relative lack of pace he should get good position. I will also use Sweet Return and Hendrix and possibly Naissance Royale though she is more likely to suck up for second or third.

Circular Quay? He can win but I will certainly use the second and third finishers from the Risen Star. Zanjero moved too soon and gets a good rider switch. Plus, while I don't think much of him, doesn't it concern you that Soaring By could be loose? It's not like he's exactly facing proven tigers here.

On another note....who does the FG morning line? It is positively hilariously bad. My personal favorites? Patriot Act at 5-1 and ( the best ) Cloudy's Knight at 5-1 ( with Naissance Royale at 12-1 ).
the oddsmakers name is mike diliberto he has been there if i remember right at least the last 10 years.
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:53 PM
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How fitting huh? I am never touting another ticket. I couldn't even get a FULL RACE out of the friggin ticket
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