whos the best jockey ever ?

[Honu]

Pincay , Eddie D. and Cordero , those guys would make monkeys of most the "good" riders right now.

[randallscott35]

The Iceman.

[Indian Charlie]

by far and away, and i mean this as sincerely as is possible for a post on a message board, the best ride i ever saw was the ride the jock gave the first time starter named MOBO to a second place finish in the third race saturday at Santa anita.

he was trained by oneill, and if it werent for the fact that there was another oneill fts in the race, he for surely would have won with that remarkable ride!

of course, the charts wont tell you the whole story, so it's best to have seen it, or go to calracing to watch it.

[The Bid]

P Val over any of them

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cardus

A friend of mine once said that P Val could get an elephant out of the gate faster than a lot of jockeys get their horses out of the gate.

He definitely has the gift.

Rode Pval in a grade 1 stake, got left. My luck....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cardus

What horse?

Battle Won in Bing Crosby. Honestly the horse had a bad habit of breaking slow and I figured P val may be able to get him out of there quick. But did not work out .

[my miss storm cat]

Fallon, with PVal a close 2nd.....

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Battle Won in Bing Crosby. Honestly the horse had a bad habit of breaking slow and I figured P val may be able to get him out of there quick. But did not work out .

Well,your horse(once he broke poorly) could have gotten in more trouble,or been quickly rushed up to the front.Pat got him forwardly placed as soon as he could(without rushing him,and emptying him.) He got him to draw away nicely from some nice horses. Greg's Gold was just too good that day(108.04.) With a slow start,Pat and your horse got a what? 108.20,or 108.25 ?? Here is what I know.If Pat had ridden your horse in the Forego,Mass Media wouldn't have gotten by.Greg's Gold was probably too tough that day at Del Mar,but Pat would have found enough late to get that Forego.If you keep using him, you will get that Grade 1. Hey,this is the guy that use to drive Pincay nuts(he admits Pat would beat him on lesser horses.) The 2nd or 3rd best horse may be all you need.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Sad wagering story involving Battle Won (albeit indirectly) from the CD HCDP. on Derby Day two (?) years ago.

I watch that day's races with three other friends, and in a host of races, each guy selects a horse to form a $1 triple box. I really liked Level Playingfield in the race -- loaded with speed, he was one of the closers -- but didn't recommend him because he was 50-1. As you might remember, you closes stoutly to finish behind you (20-1?) and Biancone's Pomeroy finishes 3rd to form a HUGE triple. (We used Battle Won; a friend keyed him with vigor!)

Yes I do. The owner of Battle Won had an $80 triple. Made way more gambling than on the purse check. Level Playingfield always ran well at CD.

[randallscott35]

You want to see a great ride. Watch the one Evening Attire got on Sat. Textbook.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

by far and away, and i mean this as sincerely as is possible for a post on a message board, the best ride i ever saw was the ride the jock gave the first time starter named MOBO to a second place finish in the third race saturday at Santa anita.

he was trained by oneill, and if it werent for the fact that there was another oneill fts in the race, he for surely would have won with that remarkable ride!

of course, the charts wont tell you the whole story, so it's best to have seen it, or go to calracing to watch it.

And Mobo's rider met the dirt about 3 jumps out of the gate, while Mobo ran on without him, gaining second, no less. O'Neill's other entry, Try To Fly, by Trippi, got to the wire 5 ahead of him, earning a Beyer, I believe, of 98.

[ARyan]

Angel Cordero Jr.

[Cannon Shell]

Jacinto Vasquez ....if he was live...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cardus

He rode for LeRoy Jolly when he trained for Burt and Diana Firestone, right? (Genuine Risk, e.g.)

Yes but Ruffian would be his most famous mount. Rode Onion when he beat Secretariat at Saratoga. Had this little issue in that he occasionally would set up betting coups