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Old 02-28-2007, 09:13 PM
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Didn't Paul Pompa and Pat Reynolds grab Spooky Mulder for $100,000 when they took him?
Yes, they did. They took the horse from Scott Lake, right? Or, did Lake claim the horse from them? My brain is failing me a bit here, LOL.

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Old 02-28-2007, 09:15 PM
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Yes, they did. They took the horse from Scott Lake, right? Or, did Lake claim the horse from them? My brain is failing me a bit here, LOL.

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Old 03-01-2007, 06:57 AM
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JJP put up an entry in the Trip Notes Room about Artie Hot yesterday in the 7th... It was Artie Hot that I was refering to that I believed needed to be claimed for $40,000. And I suggested him to a group. That group wanted to claim him, but thanks to a bizarre rule from the Florida HPBA, could not.

Seems that if you want to claim a horse these days in Florida, you have to use cash (!) or have money in your horseman's account or wire transfer in by 1pm the day of the race. These guys got a cashier's check for the $40,000 and the 6% tax, yesterday morning, and were refused the claim when arriving at GP.

There isn't a racing jurisdiction anywhere that won't take a cashier's check. Truly amazing. FL HPBA wants cashier's checks in 48 hours before a race. 48 hours? The race was barely drawn 48 hours ahead... how in hell is anyone going to have a cashier's check drawn then when they don't know they have aninterest in a horse yet? Ridiculous.

Anyway, if you saw the race, you saw that Artie Hot ran big yet again, and now won't possibly be available again for $40,000 as he went unclaimed.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:02 AM
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Should have had the Mob claim it. Truly amazing stuff

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Old 03-01-2007, 11:10 AM
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JJP put up an entry in the Trip Notes Room about Artie Hot yesterday in the 7th... It was Artie Hot that I was refering to that I believed needed to be claimed for $40,000. And I suggested him to a group. That group wanted to claim him, but thanks to a bizarre rule from the Florida HPBA, could not.

Seems that if you want to claim a horse these days in Florida, you have to use cash (!) or have money in your horseman's account or wire transfer in by 1pm the day of the race. These guys got a cashier's check for the $40,000 and the 6% tax, yesterday morning, and were refused the claim when arriving at GP.

There isn't a racing jurisdiction anywhere that won't take a cashier's check. Truly amazing. FL HPBA wants cashier's checks in 48 hours before a race. 48 hours? The race was barely drawn 48 hours ahead... how in hell is anyone going to have a cashier's check drawn then when they don't know they have aninterest in a horse yet? Ridiculous.

Anyway, if you saw the race, you saw that Artie Hot ran big yet again, and now won't possibly be available again for $40,000 as he went unclaimed.
Steve, sorry to hear about the hurdles your people had to jump through. Interestingly enough, I think there are a couple of tracks that will not except cashiers checks -- mainly, NYRA. I am not sure if the rule still stands, however, for quite some time, NYRA would only allow cash for same day or wire transfer (by a certain time, or perhaps even the day before). The reason, from what I've been told and you may remember the details as I do not and I am certainly not going to mention names, is that NYRA found itself in the midst of a problem where a person took off with money that originated from fraudulent cashiers checks.

Does anyone remember that -- a certain trainer, who ultimately had a problem with a family member? I was told that NYRA moved to a cash, wire transfer, etc. standard.

BTW, I looked at that horse. First of all -- the claiming game (to claim or not to claim) is a circular, never ending game of mental you-know-what. But, the first thing I see, and it jumps out at me every single time is -- the horse was in for the bottom! He's not protecting him at all, and all he's buying is 2lbs. He already got 2lbs. from the NW condition. Second -- and it's not good or bad, but the colt is turf only. He also blows the condition on the win and I would want to know where in the book I could go with him after. Is the an N3L? I was kind of on the fence. I didn't watch any replays or make any calls though.

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Old 03-01-2007, 11:30 AM
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I remember Sforza, I bet on him a time or two. I'm happy to hear that he has a nice home.
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:21 PM
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I hope I don't get these two mixed up, but here goes:

Steve, Delaware Park will not accept a cashiers check OR a certified check same as cash without documentation. For either one, they want a written document from the bank verifying the funds. The doc must have a phone number so they can also call to verify, if they choose. Translated, if you want to deposit a check and use it at Delpark, you had better do it on Mon through Wed because the banks won't be open on Sat afternoon or Sunday for the bookkeepper to make the call.

I think Maryland has to be able to call the bank too to verify the funds, so you have to provide them with a document so they can call your bank. Better get that check in before 12noon on Sat so they can call - forget Sunday.

Now, I can understand someone coming in from out of town being required to do more than just drop a cert check, claim, and roll out of town. But if you are a horseman in MD, and have been for quite a while, and you want to claim in MD, there should be some accomodation made by MD. Just MO....

I always ended up keeping a bunch of cash around the house just in case something came up we wanted to claim. I always got the warm, fuzzies when I carried thousands of dollars in to Pimlico.......
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:22 PM
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Phys..

It seems that there has been a rash of cashier check forgeries going on that is making them less welcome.. When I went to deposit some Dee Tee Stable buy-ins that were cashier's checks, the teller asked me if I knew the people they were from. I said 'yes.. why?' and she explained the security measures that have been put on for them of late.. HOWEVER.. it's not as if the racetracks don't know and have control over who the horse(s) are going to.

The guy behind this claim is a wealthy guy who has been out of the game for a while and wants to get started again... Here was a nice horse to wade back into the pool with, and the system inhibits his re-entry into the game. Silly...
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