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Old 02-25-2007, 09:06 PM
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I think some posters need to look up the word " irony ".
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:13 PM
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was it that bad of a ride?
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:33 PM
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was it that bad of a ride?
This always happens when the longshot wins the Overnight Stake
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:37 PM
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hmmmmmm
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Old 02-25-2007, 10:38 PM
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I'll agree with them on one thing- Jamaica Hospital is pretty awful.
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Old 02-26-2007, 09:40 AM
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Agreed..Jamaica Hospital is not a first class hospital and they are not set up for sports medicine trauma injuries like the major hospitals in NYC.

Another problem is the constant fighting for control of the health care of NYRA jockeys by the 2 main competing sports medicine programs in New York. Pro Health Care Assoc based out of Long Island which covers the Jets-Islanders and Hofstra and Hospital for Special Surgery based in NYC with satellite offices in Queens and Long Island which covers the Giants-Knicks-Mets-St. Johns.

Both groups state on the web sites that they cover NYRA but in reality neither covers the jockey colony or backstretch exercise riders unless they are contacted directly by a jockey agent who needs medical care.

It's too bad the jockey agents can't get organized for the benefit of the riders and strike a deal with either health care company for a comprehensive NYRA medical program. I know everybody will say that jockeys are INDEPENDENT contractors, but it is basically the same as NASCAR with has independent race teams but NASCAR management arranges for a major hospital in NC to oversee and provide sports medicine trainers and MD's at each race site for each event to provide sports medicine care to drivers and pit crews and technicians. The host track organizes the emergency facility for fans and major crashes. The same program is in effect at all INDY car races by a hospital based out of Indianapolis. NYRA can't compete with mega sport NASCAR, but a smaller health care setup could and should work with only 3 BEL-AQU-SAR tracks to cover. They just need to add an on-call type person to fast track the athletes in case of emergencies and to assist them with surgeries and rehab.

I know Jerry Baily's and Mig's agents used a on-call person to help their guys!
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:26 PM
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Can't they contract to have a copter very close by(so they can take them to a place that has a trauma center...if necessary.)
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:04 PM
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NYC EMS Police or fire has copters for use. But injuries such as these wouldn't be used with all there is in NYC. There is a Level 3 or 4 trauma hospital not far from Big A but it is in a terrible area. Mainly for gunshots and things like that.

All sports injuries in NY go to either:

Hospital for Special Surgery affiliated with Cornell-Columbia Presbyterian Medical School (Mets/Giants/Knicks/St Johns)

Hospital for Joint Diseases affiliated with NYU Medical school. (Yankees/Rangers)

LIJ-North Shore on Long Island near Belmont (Islanders/Jets/Hofstra U).

They all compete for prestige of sports teams. They even try to buy off sports teams for the rights to cover the teams.
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Old 02-27-2007, 01:23 AM
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Can't they contract to have a copter very close by(so they can take them to a place that has a trauma center...if necessary.)
Not really.

Aqueduct is losing money as it is, so the added cost of ensuring a helicopter nearby is only going to add to their financial woes.

Even if they did that, they would also have an issue of not being able to race until the helicopter returned. Most tracks (probably all tracks) prohibit racing unless an ambulance is on-track. That rule would likely also apply to the helicopter. If the helicopter is the means of transport for a head trauma incident, then the helicopter must return to the track before another race is run.

Really the main issue is cost, and having a helicopter nearby for every race card isn't exactly cheap.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:24 PM
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Thread was started by someone else, maybe as a joke or satire...but the problem is out there at NYRA as well as all other racing venues. My guess is NOTHING will ever change for these jockets when it comes to nutritional counseling, strength programs, injury care etc.
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Old 02-27-2007, 02:05 PM
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I'll agree with them on one thing- Jamaica Hospital is pretty awful.
if you have a traumatic injury its not a bad place to go. Just dont want to stay too long.
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