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Old 06-23-2006, 01:24 PM
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you know who i am...lol..why bring that bust out in with ya the stench of loser should have doomed bob and john.....
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:30 PM
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you know who i am...lol..why bring that bust out in with ya the stench of loser should have doomed bob and john.....
lol. Baffert don't need no steenking badges.
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:31 PM
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The security guards get like that in the garage too...

You could be Jeff Gordon and they won't let you in without proper credentials. I don't blame Baffert.
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:52 PM
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The security guards get like that in the garage too...

You could be Jeff Gordon and they won't let you in without proper credentials. I don't blame Baffert.
Its rather ridiculous. In order to get someone in the paddock you have to get them a paddock pass. YOu are the trainer of three horses in the Derby. You are trying to train the horses, and accomodate the media with non stop interviews and also deal with your business. You have a bunch of friends and guests with you and you blow the headcount by a few. In order to get the passes in the first place you have to call the horseman's liaison, then go get em, then try and have them passed out to friends and guests who are scattered all over town at different locations. So you blow the heacount by a couple, or you dont have the paddock passes with you, you have accomodated the press all week and you try and bring in a guest with you to the paddock of a race where you have a horse running.
This sound like a reason to get mad if you are baffert and someone says no? Give me a break. Security is gladly had at the racetrack and everyone appreciates the job these guys do. BUt to tell a guy with three horses in teh race who is standing in front of you telling you this guy is with me, that he can't go in. Yeah, I'd throw a fit as well.
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:01 PM
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Its rather ridiculous. In order to get someone in the paddock you have to get them a paddock pass. YOu are the trainer of three horses in the Derby. You are trying to train the horses, and accomodate the media with non stop interviews and also deal with your business. You have a bunch of friends and guests with you and you blow the headcount by a few. In order to get the passes in the first place you have to call the horseman's liaison, then go get em, then try and have them passed out to friends and guests who are scattered all over town at different locations. So you blow the heacount by a couple, or you dont have the paddock passes with you, you have accomodated the press all week and you try and bring in a guest with you to the paddock of a race where you have a horse running.
This sound like a reason to get mad if you are baffert and someone says no? Give me a break. Security is gladly had at the racetrack and everyone appreciates the job these guys do. BUt to tell a guy with three horses in teh race who is standing in front of you telling you this guy is with me, that he can't go in. Yeah, I'd throw a fit as well.
Yep, I would too... and have. LOL
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:05 PM
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Yep, I would too... and have. LOL
Baffert wasn't wrong. He had every right to explode as he did. CD obviously didnt do the job well enough to make sure his guests were accomodated. Could he have handled it better? perhaps. But when you are entering the paddock to saddle three horses for the Ky Derby and are nervous to start with, does that hassle seem like a lot of fun to you? I'd think that some track exec or head of security could easily have come over and made a judgement call and just said let them through. Sorry, I don't see this as anything that wouldn't infuriate anyone else.
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:08 PM
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Baffert wasn't wrong. He had every right to explode as he did. CD obviously didnt do the job well enough to make sure his guests were accomodated. Could he have handled it better? perhaps. But when you are entering the paddock to saddle three horses for the Ky Derby and are nervous to start with, does that hassle seem like a lot of fun to you? I'd think that some track exec or head of security could easily have come over and made a judgement call and just said let them through. Sorry, I don't see this as anything that wouldn't infuriate anyone else.
Same garbage happens in Nascar and it's ridiculous. I was actually wearing credentials and a hot pass in Atlanta and the guard wouldn't let me through because he thought I was a pit lizard trying to get in. AND I HAD CREDENTIALS ON. I was infuriated, but no where near as infuriated as my boyfriend who had to come up to the gate and get me... needless to say, the guard apologized profusely, but that kind of garbage ticks me off...

Baffert has more important things to worry about than credentials and getting people in. If he says, "this person is with me", than that should be all that is needed. I would have thrown a complete fit.
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:13 PM
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To me this is a non-issue. But Baffert is in the wrong here. You do not touch a security guard. It is that simple. The reason from credentials is so they can control who is in the paddock area. They do not need 1000 people down there. Also, you cannot say well you are Bob Baffert so we can let you slide. Where do you draw the line. Do you tell Pletcher or Speitz that they cannot have someone without credentials in because they have never won the Derby--RIDICULOUS. Follow the rules Bob and things like this will not happen.
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:11 PM
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500 to him is like a penny..no big deal..id make miller sit outside ..scrub and if anyone is to blame it should be his asstnt..that handles that stuff..the security gaurd was right..nobody means nobody..
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:17 PM
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500 to him is like a penny..no big deal..id make miller sit outside ..scrub and if anyone is to blame it should be his asstnt..that handles that stuff..the security gaurd was right..nobody means nobody..
If you are a track exec, you have to make sure the players and stars of teh show are accomodated. That means on your time, not theirs. Cd really fouled this up and its not the first horror story I have heard about. Make sure the people you hire to deal with them COME TO THEM and do it when it is convenient for them. Baffert wakes up and has to train, then he has to do all those interviews. Then hes gotta call his owners and fax them to keep them apprised of whats going on with their horses. Then hes gotta make sure horses who need to be entered that day are entered properly. Then hes gotta make a out a training chart for the division back in California and fax that and talk to his asst trainer there to make sure thinsg are going ok, see how the horses there are doing, and make sure he knows what he wants em to do.
After that "light work" hes gotta go back to where he is staying and see the wife and kid, take a nap and eat, and then shower and get dressed to get back over to the track for the races. And thats just a derby week day, derby day is 100 times worse. Where exactly is he supposed to find the time to call and arrange the other bs. Those guys whould be waited on by the track to insure that THEIR day and the day of their GUESTS goes silky smooth. They are putting on the show, not the track. They just collect the cash from the show.
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:12 PM
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Baffert wasn't wrong. He had every right to explode as he did. CD obviously didnt do the job well enough to make sure his guests were accomodated. Could he have handled it better? perhaps. But when you are entering the paddock to saddle three horses for the Ky Derby and are nervous to start with, does that hassle seem like a lot of fun to you? I'd think that some track exec or head of security could easily have come over and made a judgement call and just said let them through. Sorry, I don't see this as anything that wouldn't infuriate anyone else.
Nope, Baffert wasn't wrong, just preoccupied.
$500 fine...yeah right, big deal.
Rent-a-cops have ajob to do!
Gimme a break.
And for Blood Horse to make a headline out of it...gimme another break...
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