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Old 02-23-2007, 06:32 AM
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I wouldn't talk to anyone about my horse. The public has no clue what it takes to train one, and I am not in the mood to school them. I would probrably say, go buy one, get a trainers licence, and then come back and see me.
Why is it that Luckas's past assistants still praise the man? Simple, they respect the Hall of Famer


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Old 02-23-2007, 08:31 AM
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Your translations pretty much summed it up perfectly.

MisterB, Lukas has been notorious thoroughout his career for running his horses into the ground, particularly in the case of the Classics. Have you not forgotten about his last Derby stater, the debacle known as Going Wild?
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:38 AM
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Your translations pretty much summed it up perfectly.

MisterB, Lukas has been notorious thoroughout his career for running his horses into the ground, particularly in the case of the Classics. Have you not forgotten about his last Derby stater, the debacle known as Going Wild?
Back when a horse was a horse, they didn't run 5-8 races and fold up like a wet paper towel. Head to the Breeding shed, with 50 million from some Arab. The problem, not just DW, it's all over the place, due to a poor breed of horses. These pin hookers, and salesmen, look for speed, and that's what they try to sell now. You get junk to start with, that's not the trainers fault, it's the Crazed breeder, breeding bad blood, which will never turn back now. They are breeding criples, and slow breeds now, not quaility horses. I would not by a yearling if you gave me the money.

The only good blood, may lie with the Phipps family.
and that's iffy

Barbero is another example, Gostzapper, and the list goes on. Todd breaks them down too, plus many others.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:29 AM
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Never a good thing when a trainer admits after a Derby prep race that he didn't pay any attention to the track conditions which resulted in his horse not having a chance to win.....
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:42 AM
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Yeah it's not Lukas' fault that his horses typically breakdown and/or deteriorate to a dried up turd with four legs.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:48 AM
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Yeah it's not Lukas' fault that his horses typically breakdown and/or deteriorate to a dried up turd with four legs.
I agree his methods haven't change with the conditions of the breed. Look at Todds record. He has many more 2year olds, who never come back at three to show to much. How many derby's has he won, with the TOP stock he gets. Zito sends out 5, comes up empty. Assman got 40 2yr olds, comes up empty. If you want to think these new breed of horses are sound animals, then what can I say. Frankle, empty, no Derby. The only thing about Bobby, he won't race his horses when they can run
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:06 AM
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While Hard Spun came into the race less than his best; once he drew the nine hole he had little chance. BBB
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:10 AM
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I agree his methods haven't change with the conditions of the breed. Look at Todds record. He has many more 2year olds, who never come back at three to show to much. How many derby's has he won, with the TOP stock he gets. Zito sends out 5, comes up empty. Assman got 40 2yr olds, comes up empty. If you want to think these new breed of horses are sound animals, then what can I say. Frankle, empty, no Derby. The only thing about Bobby, he won't race his horses when they can run
Yes but with most of the trainers you've mentioned they at least have older horses that are still competitive. D. Wayne tends to put his stock in races they have no business being in because he wants all of the glory and has the patience of a crackhead panhandling on new years eve. You can't place the blame solely on the breed.
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:42 PM
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I wouldn't talk to anyone about my horse. The public has no clue what it takes to train one, and I am not in the mood to school them. I would probrably say, go buy one, get a trainers licence, and then come back and see me.
Why is it that Luckas's past assistants still praise the man? Simple, they respect the Hall of Famer


Over $241,000,000 in eranings
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my 2 cents worth which is worth nothing i feel my job is to get the horse to the track in the best condition for that race. it is my jockeys job & responsibility to study the race & to know track conditions.
After the race i will listen to what the jockey has to say & not comment at all to the jockey or tv untill i have had a chance to study the Replay.
There are so many varablies that can happen that it would be impossible to comment & believe me there are times when ive wanted to drag a jock from the horse but sometimes you have to remember we are all human & there is no benifit blasting anything after the race has been run.Best to save it for the Stewards
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