Penn. Derby now a $1mill. race

[slotdirt]

Haskell and Travers are what, like two or three weeks apart? Bluegrass Cat ran both last year, Roman Ruler ran both the year before. I don't think the Haskell has any effect on field size for the Travers. There are plenty of pricey races for 3YO's around that time - the PA Derby, WV Derby, etc. - but the Travers will always still be the Travers.

[boswd]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Haskell and Travers are what, like two or three weeks apart? Bluegrass Cat ran both last year, Roman Ruler ran both the year before. I don't think the Haskell has any effect on field size for the Travers. There are plenty of pricey races for 3YO's around that time - the PA Derby, WV Derby, etc. - but the Travers will always still be the Travers.

True but what concerns me is how trainers love spacing between races and it has been a concern in the past of running horses in both the Haskell and the Travers being three weeks apart and now with the PA Derby a million dollars and a week after the Travers, that gives them the 4 weeks they like in between races.
The Travers will always be The Travers but in this day of The Breeders Cup, prestigious races have taken their hits in favor of spacing between races and when a race is a million dollars, they could start to overlook the Travers.

I have a great memory of the PA Derby in 1991 when eventual winner Macho Uno knocked down a fence in the paddock to get to the lone female entered in the race. His name really fits him. She ran second. I cannot remember her name, but I think she is a daughter of Unbridled.

God bless the slots.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning

I have a great memory of the PA Derby in 1991 when eventual winner Macho Uno knocked down a fence in the paddock to get to the lone female entered in the race. His name really fits him. She ran second. I cannot remember her name, but I think she is a daughter of Unbridled.

Wasn't that Valley Crossing who won that year? which paid $158.60. Ridden by Andrea Seefeldt ?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Wasn't that Valley Crossing who won that year? which paid $158.60. Ridden by Andrea Seefeldt ?

ment 2001 i think

[declansharbor]

I think the best thing to come out of the restructuring is that they moved The Cottilion up some, so that the major players use this race as a Breeder's Cup conditioner..Usually it was too close to the BC, so no monsters were ever entered..That will change...Big ups to one of the worst tracks I know of... If they could only change that horrid screen they have on simulcast...

Too bad there aren't enough grade 1 caliber horses to make this race interesting. Probably be a decent sized field with a standout shipin at extremely underlaid odds.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Too bad there aren't enough grade 1 caliber horses to make this race interesting. Probably be a decent sized field with a standout shipin at extremely underlaid odds.

I think this will be a race for all the second tier Plecther horses that weren't good enough for the triple crown and the Haskell / Travers / Breeders Cup circuit.

Originally Posted by MisterB

Wasn't that Valley Crossing who won that year? which paid $158.60. Ridden by Andrea Seefeldt ?

Thanks for correcting me. Of course, it was 2001!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning

I have a great memory of the PA Derby in 1991 when eventual winner Macho Uno knocked down a fence in the paddock to get to the lone female entered in the race. His name really fits him. She ran second. I cannot remember her name, but I think she is a daughter of Unbridled.

unbridled elaine?

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

unbridled elaine?

That sounds right. Thanks.