Nobiz holds lead while Hard Spun drops

[The Indomitable DrugS]

DWL has actually won the race four times, I shorted him one.

[Travis Stone]

I think Lukas' horse has a world of potential. Although he did have things go his own way, who knows how good the second horse was. If the second horse comes back to run well, Lukas is in good shape. Soundly defeated him. He looked visually impressive too. I can't tout him over a proven horse yet though into a top 20 - but he's won I'm watching with interest.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

It's pretty instinctive for people to take that stance. Even among the betting public. Not to beat a dead horse, but that's why the "proven" and "classy" Siphonic and USS Tinosa were 2/5 and 3/1 respectively, in the betting, for the '02 San Felipe. While the more talanted upstart Medaglia D'Oro was better than 8/1.

It was the legendary college basketball coach John Wooden who loved to say "I'd take talent over experience any day." He might have made a pretty good horseplayer as well.

The problem I have with this crop of 3-year-olds, is that outside of ten or eleven of them, I just haven't seen much at all in the way of genuine talent. And precious few of them have both serious talent, experience, and would figure to be effective at 10 furlongs.

Perhaps others have higher opinions of this crop right now. As much as I despise Lukas, and think this horse is probably another Cal Bred sprinter who he will ruin fast, I'd have tossed him in somewhere between 15-to-20, simply on the basis that he has run the fastest figure of any 3yo this year, and hasn't yet proven he's "not good enough."

Considering most people don't share my complete disdain for Lukas and his horses, that's why I was a little bit surprised to see that he wasn't one of the 73 horses to recieve a point in the scoring.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It's pretty instinctive for people to take that stance. Even among the betting public. Not to beat a dead horse, but that's why the "proven" and "classy" Siphonic and USS Tinosa were 2/5 and 3/1 respectively, in the betting, for the '02 San Felipe. While the more talanted upstart Medaglia D'Oro was better than 8/1.

It was the legendary college basketball coach John Wooden who loved to say "I'd take talent over experience any day." He might have made a pretty good horseplayer as well.

The problem I have with this crop of 3-year-olds, is that outside of ten or eleven of them, I just haven't seen much at all in the way of genuine talent. And precious few of them have both serious talent, experience, and would figure to be effective at 10 furlongs.

Perhaps others have higher opinions of this crop right now. As much as I despise Lukas, and think this horse is probably another Cal Bred sprinter who he will ruin fast, I'd have tossed him in somewhere between 15-to-20, simply on the basis that he has run the fastest figure of any 3yo this year, and hasn't yet proven he's "not good enough."

Considering most people don't share my complete disdain for Lukas and his horses, that's why I was a little bit surprised to see that he wasn't one of the 73 horses to recieve a point in the scoring.

I feel the same way and keep hoping for a late bloomer(s)...

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I feel the same way and keep hoping for a late bloomer(s)...

There are almost always late bloomers that have an impact. That's one big reason why I didn't hesitate to take "All Others" in the Future Wager.

Part of the fun for me now will be watching those 5-2 horses (actually 2.6-to-1 horses) move into and up the Racing Dispatch poll.

--Dunbar