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02-21-2007, 06:16 PM
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Inspite of the 107 Beyer, for a trainer who's won the Kentucky Derby 3 times, and will no doubt try to make the race with this horse at all costs, I see that Flying First Class didn't get a single top 20 vote from one person.
While, I don't personally like his Derby chances, it is a little funny to see him missing from the "others recieving votes" --- and seeing names like Pegasus Wind and Our Sacred Honor on there! 
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02-21-2007, 06:21 PM
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02-21-2007, 06:39 PM
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And Hard Spun seems to have taken a hit in the rankings...which suggests the new voting occured after Monday.
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02-21-2007, 07:40 PM
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02-21-2007, 09:04 PM
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I'm inclined to think the Chase City is an error on the voters part, I'll email them and find out. I don't check each and every vote, as we have a great panel and they know what's up and up.
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02-21-2007, 09:05 PM
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As for Lukas' horse... he's no where near my top 20, until he wins a race that puts him in the mix. How is he on graded earnings?
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02-21-2007, 09:21 PM
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However, he is the fastest 3yo in the country on Beyer figures---and when you take into account that his raw naked figure was 18 points faster than the Southwest Stakes winner---unless there was something funky in the wind data, he will quite likely also have run a MONSTER figure on the sheets...because they don't split route and sprint variants. I would assume that the gap between the Lukas maiden and the Southwest winner, which is 7 points on Beyers, would be a little wider on sheet style figs. Of course, no one took Medaglia D' Oro that serious, when he won an Oaklawn MSW race, also at six furlongs, in Feb of his 3yo season, by 4 lengths with a 101 Beyer. And while it's true MDO could only manage a 4th place finish in the Ky Derby, he also had an abysmal trip in that race. The reason why I was surprised to see him make no ones top 20---is simply that there seems to be a pretty big talent deficiancy in this crop....and unlike quite a few in the top 20...at least this horse has a little talent. And when you factor in that his trainer has won the race three times, and will do everything in his power to get him into the race...I really expected someone to throw him on.
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02-22-2007, 10:14 AM
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02-22-2007, 06:53 PM
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We passed out lifetime PPs of all horses prior to nominations and he was in the file. So, he was receiving votes based upon that. To be honest, I didn't know he was dead either but he has since been removed from the database. I certainly do not think this situation hinders the credibility of our panel as I know some of them post here and would agree. Thanks for checking out the site, we appreciate it, and keep reading!!
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02-21-2007, 06:29 PM
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02-21-2007, 06:42 PM
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02-21-2007, 07:17 PM
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02-21-2007, 07:22 PM
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Well, it does only take one person putting Chase City in 16th place for him to have those five points.
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02-22-2007, 11:27 AM
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02-22-2007, 11:56 AM
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To think that just two short years ago, we had a seasoned 2 year old in Afleet Alex as the Kentucky Derby favorite. I don't believe that the problem is lack to talent in this year's crop, but, rather, lack of experience in order to try to evaluate the crop. For me, Street Sense won going away over the Churchill Track so he's the only horse that I'm taking very seriously right now. After the Florida Derby, Wood Memorial, Arkansas Derby, and Santa Anita Derby, hopefully, praise God and other dieities, we might know a whole lot more.
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02-22-2007, 12:03 PM
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Steve,
Are you going to post your ballot on here for us? Interested to see how last weekend affected your support of Hard Spun, who I see has zero first-place votes now.
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02-22-2007, 07:07 PM
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02-22-2007, 07:14 PM
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They had a write-up on Flying First Class up on DRF's website now.
Lukas seems very excited about having the now-rare chance to ruin another exciting prospect. "I'm definitely not worried about this horse going two turns," Lukas said. "This is a big, long-striding horse that will run from here to the Rocky Mountains. "He's got me getting up in the mornings."
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02-22-2007, 07:14 PM
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My ballot/Overall NOTIONAL 1 Nobiz Like Shobiz (9) NOBIZ 2 Ravel (3) ADORE THE GOLD 3 Street Sense (2) LIQUIDITY 4 Notional (2) RAVEL 5 Any Given Saturday (2) EXHALE 6 Circular Quay HARD SPUN 7 Great Hunter (1) CIRCULAR QUAY 8 Liquidity STORM IN MAY 9 Adore The Gold BELGRAVIA 10 Stormello STREET SENSE 11 Exhale GREAT HUNTER 12 Hard Spun IMAWILDCRAZYGUY 13 Summer Doldrums STORMELLO 14 Drums Of Thunder GREAT HUNTER 15 Belgravia BIRBBIRDISWORD 16 Imawildandcrazyguy ANY GIVEN SATURDAY 17 Birdbirdistheword (1) DRUMS OF THUNDER 18 Teuflesberg FOREFATHERS 19 Day Pass ZANJERO 20 Curlin
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