Maiden Derby winners

[Cajungator26]

I'm pretty sure Giacomo had won one start prior to the derby.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I'm pretty sure Giacomo had won one start prior to the derby.

Young Jock was a maiden. He had two other starts, best he had done was second prior to the Kentucky Derby.

He only won one other race after the Derby.

Or maybe this was just at 3??? NTRA has him at only 2 other starts before Derby. ???

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by jman5581

Young Jock was a maiden. He had two other starts, best he had done was second prior to the Kentucky Derby.

He only won one other race after the Derby.

You're wrong. Giacomo broke his maiden on October 23, 2004 by 10 lengths at Santa Anita. This race was also his first 2 turn race.

Okay, yeah, I just did a quick search. He had 7 starts prior to the Derby. Won by 10 in his second.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by jman5581

Okay, yeah, I just did a quick search. He had 7 starts prior to the Derby. Won by 10 in his second.

I still don't know who the 3rd horse was.

Buchanan, Sir Barton, Broker's Tip

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by jman5581

Buchanan, Sir Barton, Broker's Tip

So it was Buchanan?

[Pedigree Ann]

In the days when the Futurity in New York (whichever track) was the biggest purse on the continent by a factor of 5 or 10, many trainers deliberately TRIED to keep their best runners maidens, because maidens got a significant weight-break in the Futurity. They would give them racing experience by running with a stablemate and declaring to win with the other horse, which means that the better horse would be pulled up late to let the stablemate finish ahead of it. Sir Barton was kept a maiden for this reason and the ploy almost worked; he finished second in the Futurity. So he was still a maiden, but a very accomplished one, when he won the Kentucky Derby the next spring.

Just recently, the filly Hollywood Story was so busy placing in stakes races that she didn't get around to breaking her maiden until she won the Hollywood Starlet S (G1).

[ManilaRose]

Originally Posted by jman5581

Young Jock was a maiden. He had two other starts, best he had done was second prior to the Kentucky Derby.

He only won one other race after the Derby.

Or maybe this was just at 3??? NTRA has him at only 2 other starts before Derby. ???

I'm pretty sure Young Jock is also the only rapper to ever win the Kentucky Derby.

I guess someone DID get the innuendo And after that, he was preeeeetty tipsy.