More Anna Nicole

paisjpq · #1 02-13-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dr. fager

Look at the number of posts on the board about it...I think there is your tell tale sign.

I feel bad for the innocent daughter, but that's about as far as it goes.

I totally agree...enough already about this woman...she was no saint.
Troubled? yes...does that mean we should feels bad because she screwed up her own life? Sorry, but everyone has to take responsibility for themselves at some point...I have little pity for people who don't.

Danzig · #2 02-14-2007, 02:10 PM

so, what will we see more of--suspended crew chiefs, or possible fathers of anna nicoles baby? thanks to dan patrick on espn radio for asking!!

somerfrost · #3 02-14-2007, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

I totally agree...enough already about this woman...she was no saint.
Troubled? yes...does that mean we should feels bad because she screwed up her own life? Sorry, but everyone has to take responsibility for themselves at some point...I have little pity for people who don't.

Yes, we are all responsible for our own behavior, but should we feel sorry for those who make mistakes? Yes...because we all make them and it's called compassion...one of humanity's better qualities!

dr. fager · #4 02-14-2007, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Yes, we are all responsible for our own behavior, but should we feel sorry for those who make mistakes? Yes...because we all make them and it's called compassion...one of humanity's better qualities!

fair enough, but is she more important than anyone else? Should I start a thread for every obituary in the Patriot News...everday?

I have plenty of compassion, but just because you make a spectacle of yourself in the public eye doesn't make you "special".

paisjpq · #5 02-14-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dr. fager

fair enough, but is she more important than anyone else? Should I start a thread for every obituary in the Patriot News...everday?

I have plenty of compassion, but just because you make a spectacle of yourself in the public eye doesn't make you "special".

Exactly.

somerfrost · #6 02-14-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dr. fager

fair enough, but is she more important than anyone else? Should I start a thread for every obituary in the Patriot News...everday?

I have plenty of compassion, but just because you make a spectacle of yourself in the public eye doesn't make you "special".

But that's not what you are saying when you condemn someone for their mistakes...I agree that she's no more special than the next person but that isn't my point...she was a person and we shouldn't belittle her. The fact that the media chooses to linger on her situation has nothing to do with my point! I find it ironic that I speak of compassion and people jump in with all this rhetoric...I never said she was better than anyone, simply the same! You speak of being responsible for your behavior and I agree...what the media says about her and what others say isn't your issue...only what you say! So enough with the red herring argument here...it is about the very thing you said you believe...personal responsibility! What she did with her life, how others enjoy condemning her, the whole circus...at the end of the day, it's only what I say that I am responsible for...same with each of us!

dr. fager · #7 02-14-2007, 03:43 PM

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The fact that the media chooses to linger on her situation has nothing to do with my point!

This was what the thread was about...I don't see disrespect.

I personally grieve the dead and have compassion for the living.

paisjpq · #8 02-14-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Yes, we are all responsible for our own behavior, but should we feel sorry for those who make mistakes? Yes...because we all make them and it's called compassion...one of humanity's better qualities!

compassion is important...but free will is also pretty important IMO...and she made her own choices...and she suffered the consequences of those decisions. Is it sad? sure...but why should I feel bad about it?

somerfrost · #9 02-14-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

compassion is important...but free will is also pretty important IMO...and she made her own choices...and she suffered the consequences of those decisions. Is it sad? sure...but why should I feel bad about it?

Yes we should!

paisjpq · #10 02-14-2007, 03:38 PM

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Yes we should!

Well, I'm not a good person then because I don't. But then, it's no real secret that I am not a big fan of people in general, it's why I work with animals.

somerfrost · #11 02-14-2007, 03:40 PM

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Well, I'm not a good person then because I don't. But then, it's no real secret that I am not a big fan of people in general, it's why I work with animals.

And that's your choice to make....your responsibility!

Crown@club · #12 02-14-2007, 03:46 PM

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And that's your choice to make....your responsibility!

Yes

Buffymommy · #13 02-14-2007, 03:42 PM

Did she make mistakes? Yes she did and some dosey of mistakes. Our job is not to judge her by those mistakes. I for one feel sorry for her. Call me crazy if you must, but I think she was a decent human being. Yes, she was into drugs, but that is a mistake that she had to deal with the consequences of. But then again how many of us have had to handle the death of a child? Do we know what she was going through?

Yes, she was on drugs before her son died. SHe has made MANY mistakes in her life. But most of her mistakes hurt herself and not others. Did she hurt others, maybe but I don't know.

I just know that I for one am not going to condemn someone for making mistakes. So what if she slept with a lot of men. DON'T MOST MEN TRY TO SLEEP WITH EVERY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN? Double standard in this country.

somerfrost · #14 02-14-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Did she make mistakes? Yes she did and some dosey of mistakes. Our job is not to judge her by those mistakes. I for one feel sorry for her. Call me crazy if you must, but I think she was a decent human being. Yes, she was into drugs, but that is a mistake that she had to deal with the consequences of. But then again how many of us have had to handle the death of a child? Do we know what she was going through?

Yes, she was on drugs before her son died. SHe has made MANY mistakes in her life. But most of her mistakes hurt herself and not others. Did she hurt others, maybe but I don't know.

I just know that I for one am not going to condemn someone for making mistakes. So what if she slept with a lot of men. DON'T MOST MEN TRY TO SLEEP WITH EVERY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN? Double standard in this country.

Amen...a woman sleeps with a different man every week and she's a slut, a man sleeps with a different woman every day and he's a stud! But then, if folks stay busy pointing out the shortcomings of others, they can ignore theirs!

Buffymommy · #15 02-14-2007, 03:45 PM

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Amen...a woman sleeps with a different man every week and she's a slut, a man sleeps with a different woman every day and he's a stud! But then, if folks stay busy pointing out the shortcomings of others, they can ignore theirs!

Very true Somer.

paisjpq · #16 02-14-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Amen...a woman sleeps with a different man every week and she's a slut, a man sleeps with a different woman every day and he's a stud! But then, if folks stay busy pointing out the shortcomings of others, they can ignore theirs!

just to be clear...my opinion of her has ZERO to do with how many people she might have slept with...

dr. fager · #17 02-14-2007, 03:52 PM

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Amen...a woman sleeps with a different man every week and she's a slut, a man sleeps with a different woman every day and he's a stud! But then, if folks stay busy pointing out the shortcomings of others, they can ignore theirs!

Man I thought GPK was cheesy trying to get in with all the chicks here....

KIDDING...

my god I'm not a Neanderthal nor do I feel this way, mainly saw a chance to rip on T3B...had to jump on it.

paisjpq · #18 02-14-2007, 04:05 PM

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Amen...a woman sleeps with a different man every week and she's a slut, a man sleeps with a different woman every day and he's a stud! But then, if folks stay busy pointing out the shortcomings of others, they can ignore theirs!

I know all of my shortcomings...as she may have known all of hers...but I'm not a public figure, nor do I desire to be. She wanted nothing less than fame...and got it...and like it or not a person in the public eye will have to endure the public's scrutiny of their lifestyle...is it judgemental? absolutely...but it's also a reality.
But I would love to have some one point out some of her good works...because I personally haven't heard of any.
I was taught that family is number one priority and that charity begins at home...these are beliefs that I hold very strongly...they appear to run counter to what Ms. Smith believed (at least as evidenced by many of her actions)...and so while I think her early death is too bad I don't feel bad for her...she lived the life that she wanted.

somerfrost · #19 02-14-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Oh please. This is ridiculous!

Sure it is...anything you say!

somerfrost · #20 02-14-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Stop with the compassion stuff. Not feeling sorry for Anna Nicole has nothing to do with having compassion. What exactly do you feel compassion for? That she married a 90 year old guy to get money? That she wasn't around him very much, especially not during his last days when he was asking for her? That the $25 or so million that she was offered after he died wasn't enough and she fought tooth and nail for more. I guess $25 million isn't enough to live off of. Or should I feel compassion for someone who sleeps with so many people that they don't know who the father of her baby is? I feel compassion for the baby. She is going to grow up without her mother, honestly probably better for her in the long run. And she will forever be known as Anna Nicole's kid, that's not an easy thing to be, and Anna Nicole certainly didn't make it any easier for her.

Not feeling sorry for someone has nothing to do with compassion? That's what compassion is! You spent a paragraph judging her and that's not for you to do! Compassion isn't something you feel for someone because they "earn" it, it's something you feel for someone cause they need it!!!!