JAZIL'S SISTER! Gr. I Las Virgenes

[jpops757]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

We can definitely agree that she's a talented filly and I'll even agree that the sky is the limit for her. What I didn't mean to infer at all was that she wasn't that good. I looked back at her maiden race and was much more impressed with that effort than I was the Las Virgenes. I feel like the circumstances she overcame have been overblown and looked better than they actually were due to what I felt were very inferior performances by the others. What I was basically saying is that had the runner-up and third-place horse been anything at all, Rags' race would be seen as a tough luck third in which she still was the best horse but not have gotten the overwhelming reaction that it has gotten.

I'm sorry that I wasn't impressed with the race. The maiden race did more for me. Some of u people seem to feel that u have to praise everything and that once u like a horse, everything he/she does is golden. Some of u are unable to be objective in your assessments because u have become emotionally invested in the horses. There's nothing wrong with being emotional about them but when it clouds your judgements, that's when u start to lose your perspective. Sometimes, good horses turn in performances that aren't their best yet they still are able to win because they are good horses. Doesn't mean they run their absolute best everytime. Take Invasor's Donn. It wasn't his best or fastest effort. But it was good enough to win. So if I come on here after the race and say that I wasn't impressed (in comparison to some of his other races), am I wrong for saying so? I guess saying that Rags is talented and the sky is the limit for her is still not enough. I suppose I need to have an orgasm everytime she steps on the track in order to safisfy some of u. I"ll keep that in mind for next time.

I am not objecting too your opinion. The comparison of times and splits are for 3yr fillies early in the year. These 2 and 3yr olds dont just appear on the scene and run these 12 splits and compete with the older horses for times, Also take into consideration only the 3rd race. The field had several graded winners but yes they were against there age group and no one expected them to threaten Discrete Cat.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by jpops757

I am not objecting too your opinion. The comparison of times and splits are for 3yr fillies early in the year. These 2 and 3yr olds dont just appear on the scene and run these 12 splits and compete with the older horses for times, Also take into consideration only the 3rd race. The field had several graded winners but yes they were against there age group and no one expected them to threaten Discrete Cat.

I'm not expecting them to run like the best in the game. Allowances should be given for the fact that they are 3yo fillies and for the fact that it was only her third career start. That's why I understand that she has a lot of room to improve and will likely be even better. My analysis wasn't on how good she is or can be though. It was simply on that one race. I didn't see it as special. The way most of the people described it, u would have thought she was pulling a Silky Sullivan coming down the lane. The truth of the matter is that whether she was running 11 3/5, 12 4/5 or 19, she was still decelerating down the lane. Her last 8th was slower than the one before it. I just didn't see this great acceleration that others saw. I watched that horse Christmas Kid win the Davona Dale the other day at Gulfstream. I know, different tracks, different scenarios. But I don't see anyone raving about her. Her finishing time, not the final time of the race, but final quarter mile, was nearly identical to what Rags did, despite the fact that she ran faster earlier. I felt like the performances of Baroness Thatcher and Runway Rosie, while not taking away from what Rags did, helped create an optical illusion that made it look better.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm not expecting them to run like the best in the game. Allowances should be given for the fact that they are 3yo fillies and for the fact that it was only her third career start. That's why I understand that she has a lot of room to improve and will likely be even better. My analysis wasn't on how good she is or can be though. It was simply on that one race. I didn't see it as special. The way most of the people described it, u would have thought she was pulling a Silky Sullivan coming down the lane. The truth of the matter is that whether she was running 11 3/5, 12 4/5 or 19, she was still decelerating down the lane. Her last 8th was slower than the one before it. I just didn't see this great acceleration that others saw. I watched that horse Christmas Kid win the Davona Dale the other day at Gulfstream. I know, different tracks, different scenarios. But I don't see anyone raving about her. Her finishing time, not the final time of the race, but final quarter mile, was nearly identical to what Rags did, despite the fact that she ran faster earlier. I felt like the performances of Baroness Thatcher and Runway Rosie, while not taking away from what Rags did, helped create an optical illusion that made it look better.

Did you perhaps see anything special today? Or was this another optical illusion? Everyone and their mother knew that the Las Virgenes effort was much the best that day because of how extremely wide she raced. Her sheet number was huge.

[whodey17]

According to Tabor, Smith and Plether the KY Derby for R2R is a possibility. I think they may go against the boys next time and see what they have. If they lose off to the Oaks, if they win or perform really well then it is off to the Derby.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm not expecting them to run like the best in the game. Allowances should be given for the fact that they are 3yo fillies and for the fact that it was only her third career start. That's why I understand that she has a lot of room to improve and will likely be even better. My analysis wasn't on how good she is or can be though. It was simply on that one race. I didn't see it as special. The way most of the people described it, u would have thought she was pulling a Silky Sullivan coming down the lane. The truth of the matter is that whether she was running 11 3/5, 12 4/5 or 19, she was still decelerating down the lane. Her last 8th was slower than the one before it. I just didn't see this great acceleration that others saw. I watched that horse Christmas Kid win the Davona Dale the other day at Gulfstream. I know, different tracks, different scenarios. But I don't see anyone raving about her. Her finishing time, not the final time of the race, but final quarter mile, was nearly identical to what Rags did, despite the fact that she ran faster earlier. I felt like the performances of Baroness Thatcher and Runway Rosie, while not taking away from what Rags did, helped create an optical illusion that made it look better.

And today, I was rewarded with her $21 win in the Ashland.