Shake You Down

[Thoroughbred Fan]

Originally Posted by Scav

Lake needs to get kicked in the balls and Cole needs to not only get kicked in the balls but also his teeth knocked out.

Hopefully people shut up and just claim the horse and retire him to Kentucky Horse Park, so it pisses Cole off.

And when Cole tries to buy him back, you make him sign a contract saying that this horse will not run in thoroghbred racing again.......

No need for any contract, you just sell him back without papers. Then he cannot race.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

No need for any contract, you just sell him back without papers. Then he cannot race.

yeah but then he'll end up like all of michael Gill's former horses...on a double decker truck.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

yeah but then he'll end up like all of michael Gill's former horses...on a double decker truck.

You mean the Michael Gill who deserved the Eclipse for Outstanding Owner?

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

You mean the Michael Gill who deserved the Eclipse for Outstanding Owner?

the one and only

[capbettr]

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

No need for any contract, you just sell him back without papers. Then he cannot race.

Duplicate copies of a horses papers can be obtained/ purchased from the Jockey Club.

If you don't want the horse to race again, you don't sell it. Otherwise, it's the buyer's perogative.....

PT

[Scav]

Originally Posted by phystech

Duplicate copies of a horses papers can be obtained/ purchased from the Jockey Club.

If you don't want the horse to race again, you don't sell it. Otherwise, it's the buyer's perogative.....

PT

PT, I have heard that people that sell horses for retirement have created contracts where it is written to where the horse is not allowed to race anymore, thus a binding agreement. You could easily get a injunction(?) and force the horse to scratch if you had this contract as it would be legally binding.

[capbettr]

Originally Posted by Scav

PT, I have heard that people that sell horses for retirement have created contracts where it is written to where the horse is not allowed to race anymore, thus a binding agreement. You could easily get a injunction(?) and force the horse to scratch if you had this contract as it would be legally binding.

That makes a lot of sense so, indeed, a contract that specifically states the sale is not for racing purposes would probably hold water in a court of law.

I have seen it where a seller simply writes "NOT FOR RACING" on a horse's papers but does not specify no racing in the sales contract. Then, the buyer simply applied for a new set of papers by claiming he/she has "lost" the original.

PT

[AeWingnut]

I'm afraid to say there are worse things than racing for $7,500 like he could end up as French cuisine.

[Linny]

The Jockey Club doesn't recognize the "marking" of papers. You simply get new ones. It's sad the the American Jockey Club is more interested in the protection of the bloodline than they are of the protection of the thoroughbreds that give them a purpose to exist.
A perfect example is Phantom on Tour who was outplaced and went through several owners before turning back up at a track many years later. At any time, the owner of the thoroughbred, for whatever reason, should have the right to permantently end that horse's racing career.

There is a movement afoot in the riding/sport horse world to put pressure on the JC to add to the database, a permanent designation "not for racing purposes." Since this is a racing board, I won't bore y'all with the "why's and wherefor's" but suffice to say it will help horses who really should be away from the track.


As to SYD, this poor horse can't breathe and should be frolicking in a pasture or learning to carry a rider to small jumps or go out for trail ride.

[Buffymommy]

I want a horse. Anyone want to buy him for me? I just want to do some entry level dressage and no higher than say 2'3 jumps. I would make an excellent horsie mommy....

I would even change my name to "shakeyoudownmommy".

Originally Posted by phystech

That makes a lot of sense so, indeed, a contract that specifically states the sale is not for racing purposes would probably hold water in a court of law.

I have seen it where a seller simply writes "NOT FOR RACING" on a horse's papers but does not specify no racing in the sales contract. Then, the buyer simply applied for a new set of papers by claiming he/she has "lost" the original.

PT

You contact the jockey club and tell them the horse is not to race... simple as that

[AeWingnut]

"Rick's Natural Star. Horse was tied to a tree overnight outside a motel on his way to a Breeders' Cup race. He finished last by the length of the homestretch."

I forget who did it but someone claimed Rick's Natural Star and retired him
for the good of the horse and the good of racing