Dutrow Suspended for 14 Days(For Communicating with Barn)

[MisterB]

You actually think Trainers on suspension do not talk to the Barn. I am sure Mr. Pletcher, and Assman didn't.

They all do, and will. Seems foolish to me. And yes, the owners still have to pay their bills, so they will get a bill.

Dutow just doesn't know how to run the business behind close doors, he needs more practice.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by MisterB

You actually think Trainers on suspension do not talk to the Barn. I am sure Mr. Pletcher, and Assman didn't.

Whether or not this is true, this is my point, if trainers knew they faced an additional year suspension for such a rules viloation they would certainly think more than twice about doing it. To effectively slap a person on the wrist for getting caught doing exactly what most of us believe they do sends the absolute wrong message.....yet again.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Whether or not this is true, this is my point, if trainers knew they faced an additional year suspension for such a rules viloation they would certainly think more than twice about doing it. To effectively slap a person on the wrist for getting caught doing exactly what most of us believe they do sends the absolute wrong message.....yet again.

Just because Dutrow isn't smart enough to know how to communcate with his barn, you think others would be so stupid?

Maybe just toss out the Hammer on the 1st offense, that's the problem. They have way to many way's around this stuff. Richard will pay for his ignorance, others will learn from it.

Just like when he sent out that NY Bred Saturday against open company, and got the Locals to bet him down to 3/2. Got his behind handed to him

[ELA]

The $25k fine was for violating the terms of his suspension. The $3k to $5k fines levied against Pletcher and Assmusen were for the actual positives themselves.

I don't think $25k is that common of a fine.

Eric

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by ELA

The $25k fine was for violating the terms of his suspension. The $3k to $5k fines levied against Pletcher and Assmusen were for the actual positives themselves.

I don't think $25k is that common of a fine.

Eric

Only common to the stupid ones

[ELA]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Only common to the stupid ones

LOL.

[Danzig]

several thoughts have occurred to me..

for one, apparently dutrow wasn't aware, or didn't care, that they could subpoena the records-else why chance it? or did the subsequent interview have something to do with them investigating further? how long have they had the power to do so much checking? is a newer rule in place that allowed them to go back and investigate? i'm asking those last couple since it's been over a year since the original suspension.

also, is this a good example of dutrows mindset? breaking rules, scoffing at them, etc...

also, should they have re-instated the original suspension, since he didn't follow the rules of that suspension?

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

several thoughts have occurred to me..

for one, apparently dutrow wasn't aware, or didn't care, that they could subpoena the records-else why chance it? or did the subsequent interview have something to do with them investigating further? how long have they had the power to do so much checking? is a newer rule in place that allowed them to go back and investigate? i'm asking those last couple since it's been over a year since the original suspension.

also, is this a good example of dutrows mindset? breaking rules, scoffing at them, etc...

also, should they have re-instated the original suspension, since he didn't follow the rules of that suspension?

Not that I would want to learn first hand, but I would think that every suspension has its own terms and conditions. I say this because I and others have seen different. A trainer here posted the language from his suspension and it said nothing about contact, billing, phone calls, etc. Maybe this is the case for all suspensions and it goes unsaid or maybe its the case for second, third, etc. offenses -- I don't know.

Eric

Originally Posted by MisterB

You actually think Trainers on suspension do not talk to the Barn. I am sure Mr. Pletcher, and Assman didn't.

They all do, and will. Seems foolish to me. And yes, the owners still have to pay their bills, so they will get a bill.

Dutow just doesn't know how to run the business behind close doors, he needs more practice.

Agreed. I was at the track with some owners yesterday and were talking about this very topic. They thought that the suspensions are a joke. Dutrow doesn't seem to be too smart in covert operations. He could take a lesson from "24 " LOL. Why not use your girlfriends phone or better yet, buy one of those cells that you buy minutes for in Walmart where you can toss it or give to someone else. Seems pretty dumb to openly flaunt the rules of your suspension. You can be assured TP wasn't doing it at PAlm Beach Downs.