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Old 02-09-2007, 11:29 PM
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It is such a JOKE

They keep coming up with more excuses, but what can they say with a 200 yard kickback? I mean I saw horses pulling themselves out of the race, jockeys ducking, horses stumbling. Over the last week at TWP there has been 1 published work. Keeneland hasnt opened thier crumby surface since the 3rd. Thats a week of training, a bunch of cancelled dates, and a lot of head scratching. All this on the heels of the best invention known to man, Polytrack. How many more retards have to rework this surface before they realize its not all weather. How many more excuses will Marty Collins and Keeneland give?

On an even more ridiculous note...How can Arlington still want to install this ****. If these racetracks put this stuff down in the face of all the problems TWP, Woodbine, and Keeneland have had, they are absolute morons.
I just got done watching TP replays and this track is a total joke. I don't think Arlington knows what they are getting into. Of course, they won't have to deal with racing in 15 degree temperatures. I'm not sure what was worse tonight at TP: the excessive kickback or the insane speed bias.
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Old 02-09-2007, 11:32 PM
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I just got done watching TP replays and this track is a total joke. I don't think Arlington knows what they are getting into. Of course, they won't have to deal with racing in 15 degree temperatures. I'm not sure what was worse tonight at TP: the excessive kickback or the insane speed bias.
You know JJP, that kickback will be there also because it will be like 200 degrees once we get one of those 95 degree days. Excessive weather, like 100 degree heat or sub zero temperatures is what causes that, the dryness......That rubber better be heat treated. I agree with you. Arnold mentioned Keeneland so I am getting the feeling they are trying to pony off them.
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Old 02-09-2007, 11:41 PM
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I don't know what's happened to TP this year. I played the entire winter meet a year ago and while I saw some kickback, it wasn't as bad as tonight and I never saw TP as speed biased as it appeared tonight. Its as if the horse on the lead is on one of those moving sidewalks/peoplemovers you see at the airport.

I think they were trying to get too "cute" and messed with it too much. Now they've have many more breakdowns, bias issues as well as still having kickback problems.

I'm really wondering if this isn't Equitrack all over again.
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Old 02-10-2007, 07:57 AM
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whatever they did after the last meet only hurt, certainly didn't help at all.

and i'm going to arlington in july, i hope the track is ok....guess i'll get a firsthand view of the stuff.
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Old 02-10-2007, 11:35 AM
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http://www.drf.com/news/article/82487.html

DRF article on the "temperature cancellations" at Turfway.
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Old 02-10-2007, 11:48 AM
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whatever they did after the last meet only hurt, certainly didn't help at all.

and i'm going to arlington in july, i hope the track is ok....guess i'll get a firsthand view of the stuff.
the May to October meet at Arlington will pose no weather issues for the Polytrack.

They tried to address the kickback issue this year at TP and things were okay until the really cold weather hit. Now its balling up in their hooves and its worse than what they had last year.

give me a shout when you come up so that I can say hello.
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Old 02-10-2007, 01:42 PM
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the May to October meet at Arlington will pose no weather issues for the Polytrack.

They tried to address the kickback issue this year at TP and things were okay until the really cold weather hit. Now its balling up in their hooves and its worse than what they had last year.

give me a shout when you come up so that I can say hello.
i sure will!
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