JAZIL'S SISTER! Gr. I Las Virgenes

[mark2061mn]

this is a really nice race with rags to riches in it!

i especially like the long term prospects for rags to riches, though i'm not sure that with all she has against her tomorrow that she'll win against these.

between the post, step up and increase in distance, it's asking alot, though i do think she's my top or second pick to win the ky oaks. also, i dont see it happening, but if there was a filly out there that could win the derby, it would be her in my opinion (very remote chance).

this is the best 3yo filly race i've seen in years! definitely worth watching.

[SniperSB23]

Rags to Riches is my pick here. I feel like every horse dropping down from 8.5 wants more distance and every other horse moving up from 7 furlongs may not like the extra furlong. Rags to Riches looks the most likely to improve this race with the added distance. Cash Included could be the best in the field but I think she'll need this race before running big next out.

[SniperSB23]

She was unbelievable, incredibly wide the whole way and still won it.

[ManilaRose]

She looks nice and did have a wide trip, but did Lafit Pincay really say she lost about a dozen lengths on the two turns combined? He sounded serious, but surely he wasn't.

[Merlinsky]

Hmm not sure how many lengths the rule of thumb is for what path you're in. I forget, but she was what 6 or so wide both times? I guess one length per path then? I was impressed just seeing her walk around in the paddock on the feed from Santa Anita but boy stuff like the stretch run gets your blood pumping doesn't it?

Interesting that she is Triple Crown nominated along with Romance is Diane. RTR seems big, what are we looking at in terms of hands?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Hmm not sure how many lengths the rule of thumb is for what path you're in. I forget, but she was what 6 or so wide both times? I guess one length per path then? I was impressed just seeing her walk around in the paddock on the feed from Santa Anita but boy stuff like the stretch run gets your blood pumping doesn't it?

Interesting that she is Triple Crown nominated along with Romance is Diane. RTR seems big, what are we looking at in terms of hands?

U do realize that she ran her final two furlongs in 12.64 and 12.85 for a final quarter of 25.49? Running 25.49 final quarters in 8f races is not impressive by most standards. Sure, she ran well to win while very wide but I think it says more for the sub-standard performances of the others than it does for her. It would have been nice to see her running fast at the end and running down some horses that were also going pretty good. But that wasn't the case here. Baroness Thatcher ran second, despite a final quarter of 26.11 and Runway Rosie ran third, despite a final quarter of 26.17 In other words, the leaders didn't prove to hard to catch.

[Betsy]

You sure have high standards, King Glorious. The filly was wide throughout the race, extremely wide - she was moving fast, as Gomez said, but she had to work hard to even get in contention. Yours is the first post to really discredit the filly (the first post that I've seen anyway), asking a lot from an inexperienced filly with a bad post.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Betsy

You sure have high standards, King Glorious. The filly was wide throughout the race, extremely wide - she was moving fast, as Gomez said, but she had to work hard to even get in contention. Yours is the first post to really discredit the filly (the first post that I've seen anyway), asking a lot from an inexperienced filly with a bad post.

I don't mean to discredit her. I think she's got some talent and is obviously improving. The good thing is that it won't take much to be a top level horse among the 3yo fillies this year. They are a pathetic group at best. But today's race was not as impressive to me as it seems it was to the rest of u. Sure, she was wide. But from the 8th pole to the wire, it's a straight shot. Doesn't matter if u are on the rail or 20-wide. And she ran her final eighth in 12.85 seconds. I'm sorry but that's not moving fast at all. Especially in a race as short as 8f. The reason it appeared she was moving so fast is because the others were slowing down much faster than she was. She wasn't moving fast. If Baroness Thatcher and Runway Rosie had been ANY kind of horse, Rags finishes third in this race. It would have been a decent third considering the trip but still third. Because those other two are nothing and gave it up like $2 whores, Rags' race is being looked at like some kind of super-human (or is it super-horseman?) effort, all perspective is being lost, and she's going to be 1/5 next out. I'll pass.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Betsy

You sure have high standards, King Glorious. The filly was wide throughout the race, extremely wide - she was moving fast, as Gomez said, but she had to work hard to even get in contention. Yours is the first post to really discredit the filly (the first post that I've seen anyway), asking a lot from an inexperienced filly with a bad post.

Yes in his mind she should have not only won but also equaled the track record. Only then would she have received his tepid enthusiasm.
Don't worry, this is the guy who told us that Bernardini was going to break Secretariats track record in the BCC and even better, that Invasor was a fraud and would finish off the board. In the Donn last week he said Invasor would be no better than third. To him almost all horses are frauds and pathetic and don't measure up. I really don't know why he is involved in the sport as the only pleasure he seems to take from it is pouring cold water on any people that show any type of excitement.

[jpops757]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

U do realize that she ran her final two furlongs in 12.64 and 12.85 for a final quarter of 25.49? Running 25.49 final quarters in 8f races is not impressive by most standards. Sure, she ran well to win while very wide but I think it says more for the sub-standard performances of the others than it does for her. It would have been nice to see her running fast at the end and running down some horses that were also going pretty good. But that wasn't the case here. Baroness Thatcher ran second, despite a final quarter of 26.11 and Runway Rosie ran third, despite a final quarter of 26.17 In other words, the leaders didn't prove to hard to catch.

Do you realize this was 3yr old fillies. None of these are ready to chalange Invasor. We get caught up in the 12s and sometimes forget. There is a differance in graded stakes open company restricted to age and or sex. Compare apples to apples. This looked like a very nice field. Lets see how she comes back. I think she has a lotta run bottled up inside. She will be extremely tough for any of the 3yr filles but she isnt any threat to Invasor.

I think that before the year is over, Rags to Riches will compile an impressive record. Perhaps her main competition will be Boca Grande, another daughter of A.P. Indy.