Can you really make money in this game ?

SundayStar · #1 02-06-2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Six secrets..

1. Know the trainers
2. Know the owners
3. Know the jockeys
4. Know the grooms
5. Know the exercise riders
6. Pick your spots

That's it. I'd love to say otherwise, but unless you've got inside information at the track, you're fighting an unbelievably steep uphill battle.

I'm not saying that you still can't win by just handicapping (or playing numbers like Hooves), but it's ridiculous how many factors are unknowable by reading the race on paper.

so true. which makes being a consistent winner almost impossible. mullins took a lot fo grief for his comments but for the most part he spoketh the truth......

blackthroatedwind · #2 02-06-2007, 10:37 AM

I would say the opposite.....

It's amazing how much information IS in the paper if only one is willing ( and able ) to dig deep enough and do the required work. The game is a LOT more logical than most people realize.

2 Dollar Bill · #3 02-06-2007, 10:47 AM

Just remember its entertainment and all the work you do, can be lost on a head bob! If you dont bet the farm, have a fun time & come home with a few bucks, how bad can it be ? When in doubt bet the grey horse..

ateamstupid · #4 02-06-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I would say the opposite.....

It's amazing how much information IS in the paper if only one is willing ( and able ) to dig deep enough and do the required work. The game is a LOT more logical than most people realize.

Another dart-thrower..

blackthroatedwind · #5 02-06-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Another dart-thrower..

That's me.

I just wish I was more connected to that oh-so-reliable backstretch chatter.

Oh well.

ArlJim78 · #6 02-06-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That's me.

I just wish I was more connected to that oh-so-reliable backstretch chatter.

Oh well.

More STEAM!

paisjpq · #7 02-06-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

More STEAM!

remember, one has to know how to seperate the STEAM from the chatter...

ateamstupid · #8 02-06-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That's me.

I just wish I was more connected to that oh-so-reliable backstretch chatter.

Oh well.

Whatever dude. I say it's easier when you know rather than guess, but that's just me.

blackthroatedwind · #9 02-06-2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Whatever dude. I say it's easier when you know rather than guess, but that's just me.

You are assuming that the people you listed " know ". I believe that, in general, they don't.

I have won over time for a long time while getting very little information. For the most part I very rarely seek information and only listen to what over time has proven reliable. For the most part I very rarely even ask.

The Indomitable DrugS · #10 02-06-2007, 09:04 PM

As they say......

"Horseplayers who make the mistake of fraternizing with horsemen will eventually regret it."

ateamstupid · #11 02-06-2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You are assuming that the people you listed " know ". I believe that, in general, they don't.

I have won over time for a long time while getting very little information. For the most part I very rarely seek information and only listen to what over time has proven reliable. For the most part I very rarely even ask.

So the trainer of a class dropper doesn't know better than the handicapper whether or not he's trying to get rid of the horse or just get the horse a confidence-builder? That's gotta be one clueless trainer.

And the jockey aboard a lame horse just in a race to get claimed doesn't know more than the handicapper?

And the exercise riders who are aboard a horse every morning don't know better than the handicapper how well one of their horses is training?

Here's the bottom line: You can be the best handicapper on the planet.. If the trainer of a horse you like isn't in the race to win it, you're cooked. Period.

#12 02-06-2007, 09:54 PM

Most people, over the long haul, have no chance to win. It is not a question of intelligence, education level or "inside information", but rather the ability to gather data, analyze such and make sound judgements regarding which pool to jump into and how deep to dive.

Handicapping is not a glamorous endeavor; it requires a remarkable amount of study and dedication, often without reward. By asking the profitability question you indicate, you are going thru a period of frustration with your selections and subsequently challenge anyone else's ability.

Even if you have read epics such as "Picking Winners", "Ainslies Guide..." anything by Quirin, or several dozen other great books, you are still at the mercy of understanding the past performances. Few do, perhaps one out of a thousand.

Concentrate on a specialty, preferably one with a high return. If you are a new to the game; play vertical (trifecta, superfecta etc.) and bet the minimum. Stay focused and ignore "tips" from ANYONE, especially those that offer multiple selections in the same race, without analysis. Analyze all of your plays, both before and after the race. Grow a thick skin. BBB

blackthroatedwind · #13 02-06-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

In the midst of your hidden shot on members here you forgot to add lying through your teeth about how much you make gambling in the year. That seems to be your specialty. At least I don't hide my shots....

The following is what brought tears of hysteria to my eyes....

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Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

make sound judgements regarding which pool to jump into and how deep to dive.

From a guy who claims to bet under $35 a week.

BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!