Gulfstream Allowance draws Jazil, Corinthian

[zippyneedsawin]

This is Jazil's second race off a layoff, correct? Other than breaking from an outside post on the silly track configuration, I like his chances.

[Gander]

Other than breaking from an outside post on the silly track configuration, I like his chances.

I think this is an overused excuse for horses who lose at low odds, SNS is one of them. If a horse is good enough he can win breaking from the outside. It will not hurt Jazil's chances one bit but he may need an excuse if he burns more money.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by Gander

Other than breaking from an outside post on the silly track configuration, I like his chances.

I think this is an overused excuse for horses who lose at low odds, SNS is one of them. If a horse is good enough he can win breaking from the outside. It will not hurt Jazil's chances one bit but he may need an excuse if he burns more money.

in an 8 horse field, I don't think it will hurt his chances either... but SNS from the 12 hole had to be a negative... he may not have been good enough to win anyway... but that was really a disadvantage IMO.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Gander

Other than breaking from an outside post on the silly track configuration, I like his chances.

I think this is an overused excuse for horses who lose at low odds, SNS is one of them. If a horse is good enough he can win breaking from the outside. It will not hurt Jazil's chances one bit but he may need an excuse if he burns more money.

While constant excuses become tiresome, the outside in 1 1/8 mile races is a potential liability, though for a closer like Jazil who will likely drop back quickly it is less of a disadvantage. Plus, post seven is a lot different that post 11 or 12.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

While constant excuses become tiresome, the outside in 1 1/8 mile races is a potential liability, though for a closer like Jazil who will likely drop back quickly it is less of a disadvantage. Plus, post seven is a lot different that post 11 or 12.

I couldn't agree more.

[Gander]

I dont think SNS was compromised the slightest bit by his post. Ramon did a great job and he had a shot to win, he even looked like a winner turning for home. Excuses for horses who are overbet are getting old.

Jazil could break from any hole and still be where hes going to be, dead last for the majority of the race.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Gander

I dont think SNS was compromised the slightest bit by his post. Ramon did a great job and he had a shot to win, he even looked like a winner turning for home. Excuses for horses who are overbet are getting old.

Jazil could break from any hole and still be where hes going to be, dead last for the majority of the race.

I completely disagree. While Dominguez did a good job under the circumstances, five or six wide on the first turn is a huge disadvantage, and certainly at least contributed to Sweetnorthernsaint's defeat.

[zippyneedsawin]

I understand what you're saying, but how to you explain the stat that only one horse in the past 3 years has won from the 10 post or farther outside? (not my stat, read it on drf.com) are they all overbet favorites?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

more importantly..panty raid comes back in the 8th.......working well. for the return..this was to be a stakes filly..

[todko]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

more importantly..panty raid comes back in the 8th.......working well. for the return..this was to be a stakes filly..

What a great name for a horse. The name alone makes me want to bet on her.

Jazil should crush that field -- if he doesn't then retire him.