not such a bad idea IMO

[AeWingnut]

That reminds me.. did Willie Martinez lose his share when Brass Hat was DQ'ed in the Dubai World Cup?

That bigger the purse the bigger the penalty

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

That reminds me.. did Willie Martinez lose his share when Brass Hat was DQ'ed in the Dubai World Cup?

That bigger the purse the bigger the penalty

I'm 99.9% sure he did. It was quite the talk on the backside after the ruling stood - a lot of sour feelings on that still.

[Holland Hacker]

I was always under the impression that the owners and not the trainers paid for the Jockey.

Assuming you're saying that the trainer should pay the jock out of his own pocket than following that logic should he also have to pay the owner the lost purse. Now that would hurt!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Holland Hacker

I was always under the impression that the owners and not the trainers paid for the Jockey.

Assuming you're saying that the trainer should pay the jock out of his own pocket than following that logic should he also have to pay the owner the lost purse. Now that would hurt!

now there's an idea.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

it opens a whole new realm of insurace issues..if this was a rule..id open a bond agencey for this perpose...

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

it opens a whole new realm of insurace issues..if this was a rule..id open a bond agencey for this perpose...

Count me in on that.We could clean up.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

it opens a whole new realm of insurace issues..if this was a rule..id open a bond agencey for this perpose...

I can see franchises across the street from every track in the country....

I like you guys' line of thinking. The temptation to win at all costs is obviously too great with the current state of things. I think there should be strict liability with a 3 strikes system (kind of like the criminal penal code in California!!) that increases the punishment for the first two offenses and then requires a substantial ban (maybe not lifetime, because I believe people can learn from their mistakes) from the game to both hit them in the pocket and protect all the horsemen and horseplayers who expect integrity in the game.

Here's an example:

A horse you train tests positive: $10K fine

Any other horse you train tests positive for the second time: $50K

Any other horse you train tests positive for the third time: 5 yr ban from the game + another $50K fine.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by jman5581

I like you guys' line of thinking. The temptation to win at all costs is obviously too great with the current state of things. I think there should be strict liability with a 3 strikes system (kind of like the criminal penal code in California!!) that increases the punishment for the first two offenses and then requires a substantial ban (maybe not lifetime, because I believe people can learn from their mistakes) from the game to both hit them in the pocket and protect all the horsemen and horseplayers who expect integrity in the game.

Here's an example:

A horse you train tests positive: $10K fine

Any other horse you train tests positive for the second time: $50K

Any other horse you train tests positive for the third time: 5 yr ban from the game + another $50K fine.

Try to implement this system in most states and you can forget about racing

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

That reminds me.. did Willie Martinez lose his share when Brass Hat was DQ'ed in the Dubai World Cup?

That bigger the purse the bigger the penalty

Yes he did