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Old 02-02-2007, 12:16 PM
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What happens if it rains down there?? Any good off track runners on the card
It's looking like it might... we had tornadoes here in the Central FL area all night. It was awful... people dead and homes destroyed.
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Old 02-02-2007, 12:17 PM
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Ya i am watching it now, lucky this week tho I was up that way last weekend
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:56 PM
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Funny the mood changes to the weather. Point taken, I guess.
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:57 PM
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The key is IF???
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:18 PM
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Speaking in TG terms, of all horses, Magna Graduate is the fastest horse, so far. That being said, I think he bounces to the moon. Two horses that you have to watch out here are Hesanoldsalt and Strong Contender. Each horse has some solid reasoning IMO. I am going to be gambling on the fact that Invasor is not 100% cranked. He was kept in training for ONE GOAL, the Dubai World Cup, another Grade 1 gets him NOTHING. At 3/5, he is beatable.

Most of Salt's family improved with age, and his last race was his 'best' race yet as far as figures. If he is keen earlier, he is toast as their is alot of bs speed in this race.

Now SC is a horse that I just can't figure out. That being said, he is just as fast as Invasor and will 5 or 6/1. If he runs to his LAD or that huge Belmont race, he wins here, and maybe quite easily.

I think the way you play this race is in the pick threes, all the hilarious public will be singling Invasor (my guess is about 85% of the tickets will have invasor on the ticket somewhere). Be part of that 15% and the $20 pick three ticket that you played might get you back a grand.
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:25 PM
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Speaking in TG terms, of all horses, Magna Graduate is the fastest horse, so far. That being said, I think he bounces to the moon. Two horses that you have to watch out here are Hesanoldsalt and Strong Contender. Each horse has some solid reasoning IMO. I am going to be gambling on the fact that Invasor is not 100% cranked. He was kept in training for ONE GOAL, the Dubai World Cup, another Grade 1 gets him NOTHING. At 3/5, he is beatable.

Most of Salt's family improved with age, and his last race was his 'best' race yet as far as figures. If he is keen earlier, he is toast as their is alot of bs speed in this race.

Now SC is a horse that I just can't figure out. That being said, he is just as fast as Invasor and will 5 or 6/1. If he runs to his LAD or that huge Belmont race, he wins here, and maybe quite easily.

I think the way you play this race is in the pick threes, all the hilarious public will be singling Invasor (my guess is about 85% of the tickets will have invasor on the ticket somewhere). Be part of that 15% and the $20 pick three ticket that you played might get you back a grand.
Invasor will not lose to this bunch. You're wasting your money. I'd pick a different favorite to knock off. McLaughlin said because the DWC is not so far away from the BCC, they never let up on him. He as as close to 100% as he's going to be and he doesn't need to be at 100% to cruise tomorrow.
that's my opinion.
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:02 AM
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Invasor will not lose to this bunch. You're wasting your money. I'd pick a different favorite to knock off. McLaughlin said because the DWC is not so far away from the BCC, they never let up on him. He as as close to 100% as he's going to be and he doesn't need to be at 100% to cruise tomorrow.
that's my opinion.
Jim,your killing me. KMc is not going to come up and tell the public that he isn't tightening the HORSE OF THE YEAR. He has to be careful with this one, especially given the ownership(US/Arab). They want to win the Dubai Cup and could care less about this race, and have a GREAT BUILT IN EXCUSE when he runs a good 2nd tomorrow.

Single the hell out of Strong Contender

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Old 02-03-2007, 12:27 AM
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Invasor will not lose to this bunch. You're wasting your money. I'd pick a different favorite to knock off. McLaughlin said because the DWC is not so far away from the BCC, they never let up on him. He as as close to 100% as he's going to be and he doesn't need to be at 100% to cruise tomorrow.
that's my opinion.

I tend to agree. He just doesn't seem like the kind of horse it is worth a lot of time and money trying to beat. There are simply better opportunities.

From a Pick-6 perspective, you pretty much single him, depending on how big your play is, and spend your money more beneficially in other races.
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:47 PM
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Speaking in TG terms, of all horses, Magna Graduate is the fastest horse, so far. That being said, I think he bounces to the moon. Two horses that you have to watch out here are Hesanoldsalt and Strong Contender. Each horse has some solid reasoning IMO. I am going to be gambling on the fact that Invasor is not 100% cranked. He was kept in training for ONE GOAL, the Dubai World Cup, another Grade 1 gets him NOTHING. At 3/5, he is beatable.

Most of Salt's family improved with age, and his last race was his 'best' race yet as far as figures. If he is keen earlier, he is toast as their is alot of bs speed in this race.

Now SC is a horse that I just can't figure out. That being said, he is just as fast as Invasor and will 5 or 6/1. If he runs to his LAD or that huge Belmont race, he wins here, and maybe quite easily.

I think the way you play this race is in the pick threes, all the hilarious public will be singling Invasor (my guess is about 85% of the tickets will have invasor on the ticket somewhere). Be part of that 15% and the $20 pick three ticket that you played might get you back a grand.
1.) i bet more then 85% of the public has invasor on their ticket. those trying to leave him off completely are just stabbing at huge payoffs, not legitimately capping the races. going more than one deep? maaaaaaaaybe. leaving him off totally? dead money anyway because those guys aren't going to hit the other races

2.) I haven't seen the TG sheets....Magna is really faster than Invasor?!
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:55 PM
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1.) i bet more then 85% of the public has invasor on their ticket. those trying to leave him off completely are just stabbing at huge payoffs, not legitimately capping the races. going more than one deep? maaaaaaaaybe. leaving him off totally? dead money anyway because those guys aren't going to hit the other races

2.) I haven't seen the TG sheets....Magna is really faster than Invasor?!
What I am doing is playing a ticket like this, probably 5x4xStrong Contender. There is SERIOUS value on SC in the pick three's, maybe 20/1 or 30/1 in the pick threes, becuase everyone will be singling Invasor. All i will need to do is win the other two races, and I am fairly confident that I can get there, a $20 win wager on SC will get you back $120, but this ticket could yield at a minimum of $300 if I get there, and possibly as much as 1 or 2k if a bomb runs in the 1st or 2nd leg.....worth a $20 investment, possible a $100 investment because I have a feeling that SC runs his rear end off tomorrow, especially given that Ward can't blame post or anything else as he is locked and loaded from that area, there is a ton of speed so getting hung wide isn't going to happen. THEN I can unload against him when Ward tries to get tricky and ship him West off only a 30 day layoff and a huge effort
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