Appropriate punishment for animal cruelty

#1 02-02-2007, 12:36 AM

Considering it's Pike county...the stiffest punishment is to force these two to have sex with someone that isn't family.

philcski · #2 02-02-2007, 08:43 AM

25 years in a federal "pound-me-in-the-ass" prison (copywright Office Space).

The Bid · #3 02-02-2007, 08:46 AM

17 year olds do a lot of dumb things. Ive never killed or hurt an animal, but I would hate anything I did when I was 17 being held against me today.

Get them some professional help, make them pay some restitution, educate them a little on animal cruelty,and hope they grow up to be responsible adults.

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LARHAGE · #4 02-02-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

17 year olds do a lot of dumb things. Ive never killed or hurt an animal, but I would hate anything I did when I was 17 being held against me today.

Get them some professional help, make them pay some restitution, educate them a little on animal cruelty,and hope they grow up to be responsible adults.

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There's a big difference between doing somthing ''stupid'' and being a flat out cold-blooded killer. I've done tons of stupid things in my life as a youth, but it didn't involve another living things death for my stupid, youthful pleasure. I hardly think 17 is a child, he was fully able to make the decision between right and wrong, he chose wrong. I can only thank God those weren't my horses, cause than we wouldn't even have to worry about what to do to them, their families would be planning their funerals.

somerfrost · #5 02-02-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LARHAGE

There's a big difference between doing somthing ''stupid'' and being a flat out cold-blooded killer. I've done tons of stupid things in my life as a youth, but it didn't involve another living things death for my stupid, youthful pleasure. I hardly think 17 is a child, he was fully able to make the decision between right and wrong, he chose wrong. I can only thank God those weren't my horses, cause than we wouldn't even have to worry about what to do to them, their families would be planning their funerals.

Believe me, I'd feel the same way...but honestly, when kids do cruel things like this, I think there has to be more of a reason than stupidity. While I agree that they need to "pay" for what they did...our culture's mindless emphasis on punishing behavior rather than addressing the causes of same are counterproductive. They are indeed responsible for what they did...but then what? We need laws protecting the defenseless, be they animal or human but we would be so much better off if such laws were not needed...closing the barn door after the horses run off only gets you an empty barn...the emphasis should be on education and teaching moral principles...the lesson these kids need to learn is not that society will punish them for such an act but that their conscience will!!!

AeWingnut · #6 02-03-2007, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

17 year olds do a lot of dumb things. Ive never killed or hurt an animal, but I would hate anything I did when I was 17 being held against me today.

Get them some professional help, make them pay some restitution, educate them a little on animal cruelty,and hope they grow up to be responsible adults.

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it's a real shame that there are those that have more empathy for the criminals and or no sympathy for the victims.

if you don't know right and wrong at 17 you're never going to get it

Gander · #7 02-03-2007, 08:33 AM

If hunters wanted to be real sporting, hey wouldnt use guns, they would use their bare hands like Rambo. Their is nothing sporting about them. If you cant find another hobby to keep your life enjoyable other than killing animals, you are lame and should seek help. Bang!

Danzig · #8 02-03-2007, 08:41 AM

my big issue with all this is, if you don't want to hunt fine. but i don't see why anyone has to be so judgemental because they don't understand it.

how many of you like it when someone gets indignant about your enjoyment of racing and betting? does it bother you when you're judged for that? but it's ok for you to do the same to someone else when it's about a subject you don't like i suppose...

Danzig · #9 02-03-2007, 08:50 AM

and you all are aware that most money for wildlife management, for wildlife areas, comes from hunters, right?
did you know deer #'s are higher than during colonial times?
that members of the nwtf have brought wild turkey #'s to unprecedented levels. and no, hunters didn't almost run them to extinction-loss of habitat did. and guess who stepped up...yep, rotten hunters. the lot of them should be horse whipped.

Gander · #10 02-03-2007, 08:52 AM

Good question Danzig and believe me, I have lost certain "friends" along the way because of my devotion to horse racing & the gambling of it. I know many people think I am a bit of an oddball (aka loser) because I am not more interested in normal things like going to bars and playing in basketball leagues. To be honest I could care less about that, as long as I have respect from my wife and the few friends that count. Everyone else can say what they want.

I guess its because of the stereotype of horse player that one ses in OTBs. The bad rap hunting gets can also be attributed to the negative stereotype you see from hillbillies driving pick up trucks looking like they havent bathed in a longer time than the deer they are hunting and their badass attitude.

You arent erasing either one of these so if it means something to you go ahead and do it and dont listen to what others have to say. You only go around once baby.

AeWingnut · #11 02-03-2007, 08:55 AM

hunting is spiritual

and it is possible for Fruman to be a racist cop and for OJ to be guilty
regardless of the verdict

Danzig · #12 02-03-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I see what you are saying, but I think you are kind of misinterpreting what we are saying. It's not that I don't understand hunting, I just don't agree with it. I get the spiritual thing about being in the woods and seeing the animals, that stuff is great. So what I don't agree with is how you can be in the woods, see the animals and be moved by the experience and then either shoot one or take a shot at one. That seems odd to me.

i don't have a problem with people disagreeing. different strokes for different folks. i understand it seems odd to you, but it doesn't seem odd to me...also wish that the difference could be left at that, and not degenerate into name calling by some.
we're different. doesn't make one of us wrong, or one of us right.

Gander · #13 02-02-2007, 09:04 AM

Arriving in their Toyota pick up truck armed with their Dad's guns...Sounds about right for down there.

These scumbags deserve nothing less than spending time in jail and getting raped. Then the deathe penalty. Losing them would be a gift for society.

#14 02-02-2007, 02:38 PM

I believe this is one of the traits of a serial killer... killing animals. So do we wait until they kill people??

The Bid · #15 02-02-2007, 02:44 PM

They are hillbilly country kids. Probably hunt all the time, probably disconnected with all animals, including horses.

Restitution, Community service, and some professional help is what should happen.

Cajungator26 · #16 02-02-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

They are hillbilly country kids. Probably hunt all the time, probably disconnected with all animals, including horses.

Restitution, Community service, and some professional help is what should happen.

I like the sound of the death penalty better.