kip devile 9/2 vs. showing up 6/1

Originally Posted by boldruler

I just read who is trainer is. Now I see why you don't like him. Let me guess, you like Dutrows horse.

Are you disputing my statistics? Wanna make a wager on that?

Originally Posted by oracle80

Are you disputing my statistics? Wanna make a wager on that?

I wouldn't dispute anything you say, but Rock Lobster wins races. That said, betting against Showing Up in this race is like throwing money away. Dutrows $500K purchase won't even be competitive. Cornelio and Tagg are in for a nice paycheck this weekend. A future turf star will be born this weekend.

[Gander]

I agree, Rock Lobster wont be half the shocker that Seek Gold was. While I didnt think it was all that an impressive Stephen Foster, Seek Gold was a complete surprise and I heard no mention from anyone on here in any way.

Mike Dickinson is due for a win like this and this horse is more than capable. Like I said, there are no world beaters in here, outside of Showing Up, a 3rd tier of turf horses who if they ran this race 10 times, there would be perhaps 8 or 9 different winners.

Originally Posted by Gander

I agree, Rock Lobster wont be half the shocker that Seek Gold was. While I didnt think it was all that an impressive Stephen Foster, Seek Gold was a complete surprise and I heard no mention from anyone on here in any way.

Mike Dickinson is due for a win like this and this horse is more than capable. Like I said, there are no world beaters in here, outside of Showing Up, a 3rd tier of turf horses who if they ran this race 10 times, there would be perhaps 8 or 9 different winners.

I wasn't really following Barbaro that closely back then, but I was told Rock Lobster ran against him 1x and that he is a pretty good horse.

[blackthroatedwind]

Rock Lobster was fourth, more than ten lengths behind Barbaro, with a maiden finishing third. That maiden bombed in a MSW on the turf Belmont Day in his next turf start.

Originally Posted by boldruler

I wasn't really following Barbaro that closely back then, but I was told Rock Lobster ran against him 1x and that he is a pretty good horse.

He was 4th beaten 11 lengths in the Laurel Futurity that Barbaro won. He then shipped to Cali to run in a stakes race at SA that was rained off. You can't count that race against him. In his last race, the Woodlawn, he beat a very moderate group in a slow figure effort. The third place horse that day Unbridled behaviour is also entered in here. He's a closing horse that likes grass. Being by Mt Livermore I question his wanting to go any farther than he has. A useful horse no doubt.