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[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

DTS.. I don't think anyone except Blocky/Sec./the Mayor.. was comparing PP to GZ.. most were just trying to point out the flaws in blocky's arguments(which he didn't like, of course).. it was never about GZ v. PP.

Both were amazing horses IMO for varying reasons. I didn't like the fact that he said that GZ was doped. How does he know he was doped? Why make a statement like that unless you can back it up with something factual?

[Downthestretch55]

Just stating my humble opinion...
If you say a horse is doped, and can't provide any proof...
well, you're just asking for it.
Both were great horses, in my view.
It's good to see the passion.
Facts speak for themselves.
And, on a final note....."Actions speak louder than words!"
DTS

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Both were amazing horses IMO for varying reasons. I didn't like the fact that he said that GZ was doped. How does he know he was doped? Why make a statement like that unless you can back it up with something factual?

he said the same thing about Dutrow and St Liam. Only problem with thsi theory is that all BC horses are locked into 48 hour pre race surveillance and extensive pre race and post race testing procedures. But I guess Paul knows a top secret way around all of that stuff. Funny how only horses he doesnt like who win are the ones who are doped, imagine the cooincidenceof that? LOL!!

[ateamstupid]

Look man..

I'm trying to be as diplomatic as possible about this, but you have a really irritating way of painting yourself into a corner with disrespectful and inaccurate remarks, then labeling the reaction to those remarks as an attack on you and your "credibility"..

Dude, what you don't realize is your credibility completely flies out the window when you say things like "Ghostzapper's time wasn't stellar compared to Pleasantly Perfect's" and "Ghostzapper was doped up for every race in his career"..

What you want is to have the immunity to say whatever you want and have no one challenge it. You want to be able to be as abrasive as possible without having anyone react negatively towards you. Sorry jack, that's not how it works. You want people to be tactful towards you? Start practicing the concept of thinking before you write stuff like you wrote in the quotes I pointed out above.

You want to cry to me and Steve and the rest of the board about how everyone's ganging up on you when they're really just reacting to your ridiculousness..

If you're gonna say that zippy' was out of line for calling you the Mayor of Moronville, fine. If you think I was out of line for saying people will learn to ignore you, fine. What I should have said is people will learn to ignore you when it comes to topics involving Ghostzapper. If it hurts you that badly, I'll edit those comments out..

In the meantime, you should look in the mirror and try to come up with a reason why so many people find you offensive other than "Everyone's out to get me"..

And chill out. This is just a message board dude. I don't hate you and I don't think anyone else does either.

[whorstman]

Shall we get Byk to open a theraputic forum so we can discuss people's feelings? Might be a good idea seriously. That way if people are upset about something, they can air out thier grievences. Then we can all have a big cyber hug and walk way happy.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Look man..

I'm trying to be as diplomatic as possible about this, but you have a really irritating way of painting yourself into a corner with disrespectful and inaccurate remarks, then labeling the reaction to those remarks as an attack on you and your "credibility"..

Dude, what you don't realize is your credibility completely flies out the window when you say things like "Ghostzapper's time wasn't stellar compared to Pleasantly Perfect's" and "Ghostzapper was doped up for every race in his career"..

What you want is to have the immunity to say whatever you want and have no one challenge it. You want to be able to be as abrasive as possible without having anyone react negatively towards you. Sorry jack, that's not how it works. You want people to be tactful towards you? Start practicing the concept of thinking before you write stuff like you wrote in the quotes I pointed out above.

You want to cry to me and Steve and the rest of the board about how everyone's ganging up on you when they're really just reacting to your ridiculousness..

If you're gonna say that zippy' was out of line for calling you the Mayor of Moronville, fine. If you think I was out of line for saying people will learn to ignore you, fine. What I should have said is people will learn to ignore you when it comes to topics involving Ghostzapper. If it hurts you that badly, I'll edit those comments out..

In the meantime, you should look in the mirror and try to come up with a reason why so many people find you offensive other than "Everyone's out to get me"..

And chill out. This is just a message board dude. I don't hate you and I don't think anyone else does either.

Ateam I agree with everything that you just said. Noone hates him. I think what everyone feels is more like frustration. Its obvious that he loves the sport and has taken a great interest in it. I think thats awesome. Its also obvious that he has been trying to learn as much as he can about it, which is also great, but it takes a long time to understand a lot of things about the sport. Making silly statements is one thing, making the abrasive ones he maked without taking a step back and considering that he might be the problem, not everyone else, is another.

[Gander]

I like Sec very much. I may not agree with everything he says and the way he says it, and the way he handles himself sometimes, but I do like him and I hope that me disagreeing with him or anyone else doesnt hurt his or anyone else's feelings. Like Ateam says, its only a message board!

I was stubborn as could be about Ghostzapper. I was one of the biggest anti-zapper people on here, but I was completely wrong, driven by the desire to see him run more and the frustration that I knew he wasnt ever going to be one of those horses who ran 8 times a year like Skip Away and Cigar did. That and the fact I have never liked Frankel.
While I wont ever claim to be a Zapper fan I will say he was a better horse than one of my favorites Pleasantly Perfect, and one of the most spectacular horses I have ever seen compete.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

i just think sec /block / paul is a great guy...hes ok has problems with the ladys ..it seems

[slotdirt]

Totally off topic, but I've discussed this with others here before because of my own experiences....BUT...cripies, what is up with all the young people getting divorced these days! If that's not esoteric, I don't know what is.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Totally off topic, but I've discussed this with others here before because of my own experiences....BUT...cripies, what is up with all the young people getting divorced these days! If that's not esoteric, I don't know what is.

Its crazy **** John....it just seems like marriage does not mean anything anymore. The sanctity of marriage is not what it used to be when our parents got married.

[Gander]

Kev-

Society has changed and independence & greed has really taken over. Women want to have careers and arent as dependent on men anymore.

One huge difference with marriage in my opinion is people arent as willing to work at marriage anymore. One argument or difference and its over. Its so easy and so cheap to get a divorce now a days, its unreal.

I know my parents werent the happiest couple in the world but they stuck it out because of their kids and because they grew up in an era where divorce was taboo.

I have split thoughts on this. I dont think 2 people should stick out a marriage if they are unhappy solely because they dont want their kids to have to go through their parents divorcing. But another side of me thinks people get married for all the wrong reasons and are way to quick to give up on trying to work things out.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Gander

Kev-

Society has changed and independence & greed has really taken over. Women want to have careers and arent as dependent on men anymore.

One huge difference with marriage in my opinion is people arent as willing to work at marriage anymore. One argument or difference and its over. Its so easy and so cheap to get a divorce now a days, its unreal.

I know my parents werent the happiest couple in the world but they stuck it out because of their kids and because they grew up in an era where divorce was taboo.

I have split thoughts on this. I dont think 2 people should stick out a marriage if they are unhappy solely because they dont want their kids to have to go through their parents divorcing. But another side of me thinks people get married for all the wrong reasons and are way to quick to give up on trying to work things out.

Yeah Tim, noone fights for their marraige anymore. I admit I was quick to leave my marraige, but I think cases of infidelity are a valid reason. Some people are able to look the other way, but I aint one of those people when it comes to that type of behavior.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by GPK

Its crazy **** John....it just seems like marriage does not mean anything anymore. The sanctity of marriage is not what it used to be when our parents got married.

That is so true, Kev. I'm ashamed that I made the mistake already, but I can promise you that I won't make it again.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

That is so true, Kev. I'm ashamed that I made the mistake already, but I can promise you that I won't make it again.

Didn't you listen to my lecture on women last week.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Exceller

Didn't you listen to my lecture on women last week.

I am a female. LOL I was married to a guy who enjoyed the cheating/partying life. It wasn't for me.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I am a female. LOL I was married to a guy who enjoyed the cheating/partying life. It wasn't for me.

What cheating/partying life? Just marry an older guy and you will be happy.

[Crown@club]

My wife's cousin had been dating her current husband since 2002. From 2000 to 2004, there have been lots of marriages in the family. She got the bug to do it just because she saw the fun and everything else that went with it. Heck I want mine back. The day just came and went..(i wished that night lasted forever).

Well she's spoiled. Within 6 months after her wedding, she wants to do other opportunities. She doesn't want her marriage. He is fighting hard, but figuring out she is in her own world. Her mother paid for pretty big size wedding. Add insult to the marriage and to the family I believe, she brought a new guy home for Christmas, a month after the split, and stayed in the same bed at her mothers.

[Gander]

Cajun- Not knowing the specifics of your situation, I can say that getting a divorce is not a mistake. If only my parents had gotten one 10 years ago when things went bad, my entire family would be way better off.

[Exceller]

People get married too soon. Men should wait until they are 40 and women 30. 10 years difference is what all marriages need.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Gander

Cajun- Not knowing the specifics of your situation, I can say that getting a divorce is not a mistake. If only my parents had gotten one 10 years ago when things went bad, my entire family would be way better off.

Getting married to someone who didn't love me was the mistake. I wish I was the type of person that could have just sat back and been a glutton for punishment, but I couldn't handle it. I figured if he was going to be out until 3AM every morning drunk and cheating on me, I might as well be a single mom. He's remarried now to a girl who doesn't put up with ANYTHING. She doesn't let him go out at all with his friends and she checks his voice mail, etc. That's not my cup of tea, but that was the kind of girl he needed to be married to.