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[Gander]

I guess some would say Einstein is a better horse on the dirt. Thats very possible. I wont be playing him tomorrow. Just wanted to hear what some thought.

[blackthroatedwind]

Einstein is a better horse on turf. His only semi-decent dirt race was an off-the-turf race in the slop.

In all likelihood only Einstein or, more likely, After Market will win that race tomorrow. I suppose any horse out of Pletcher's barn is dangerous, as who knows what is going to show up on the racetrack, so perhaps Tiganello has an outside chance. The rest are complete pretenders.

[Gander]

I suppose After Market can win with an absolute perfect trip off some solid fractions. Einstein probably wont be fully cranked and I really think he has to run one of his better races to win here. Electric Light could be a handful and so too could Touch of Madness. I wouldnt be surprised if those two ran 1-2 the whole way around the track. Whoever makes the lead out of those 2 is the winner.

[blackthroatedwind]

Electric Light has next to no chance. He crawled on the lead, against significantly lesser horses, and faces significantly more pace pressure, by better horses, tomorrow.

I believe that After Market was overrated last year, as he did get favorable setups in his wins ( which I have already detailed on this board ), however it is all about TODAY'S race and in this particular race he is most likely too good for the competition save perhaps Einstein if he runs well off the layoff.

Making money at the track isn't about carrying preconceived opinions into races. When After Market faces tougher competition, and doesn't look to get a favorable setup, he will still most likely be overbet relative to his chances, and that is the time to bet against him.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

right on andy...you have to look at the race in front of you..ill include the wolfson horse in my 4 cuz anything can happen..and usally does..

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Electric Light has next to no chance. He crawled on the lead, against significantly lesser horses, and faces significantly more pace pressure, by better horses, tomorrow.

I believe that After Market was overrated last year, as he did get favorable setups in his wins ( which I have already detailed on this board ), however it is all about TODAY'S race and in this particular race he is most likely too good for the competition save perhaps Einstein if he runs well off the layoff.

Making money at the track isn't about carrying preconceived opinions into races. When After Market faces tougher competition, and doesn't look to get a favorable setup, he will still most likely be overbet relative to his chances, and that is the time to bet against him.

What do you think of Barbican's chances tomorrow? Some interesting (pedigree wise) maidens in the 5th as well...what a horrible day to have to miss out by being at work.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

What do you think of Barbican's chances tomorrow? Some interesting (pedigree wise) maidens in the 5th as well...what a horrible day to have to miss out by being at work.

I think any self-respecting horseplayer should take some kind of shot against a horse like Barbican, who will be heavily overbet and offers enormous question marks, but the race is tricky at best and there are legitimately three to four other contenders. I will find some way to play multi-race bets against Barbican however. He may win but the price will be considerably less than his chances.

There is a lot of pedigree in the 5th and a horse, Riz Sauvage, who has already run very well on the turf in his one start.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think any self-respecting horseplayer should take some kind of shot against a horse like Barbican, who will be heavily overbet and offers enormous question marks, but the race is tricky at best and there are legitimately three to four other contenders. I will find some way to play multi-race bets against Barbican however. He may win but the price will be considerably less than his chances.

There is a lot of pedigree in the 5th and a horse, Riz Sauvage, who has already run very well on the turf in his one start.

I've been waiting forever for this horse to return, but I understand what you mean and thank you.

I wish I had picked up the form to see more of what the 5th offered, just recognize a few names.