kip devile 9/2 vs. showing up 6/1

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by oracle80

No, I can assure you he does not know more. As a matter of fact, the clocker I refer to made close to 60 thousand dollars betting Barbaro that day and called him before the race to be the biggest cinch he ever saw in his life off his last work. Its only because he told me that that i used him on top in the trifecta(the 11,500 trifecta). In turn I helped him by telling him to make sure he used Stepp underneath.
I just called him right this minute toask him about the two grass works that he had and he said that they were very good and that he was a very live horse on saturday. I then asked him if off those workouts if he thought the horse compared to English Channel now(you said he was better) and he began to howl and laugh. He asked why i would ask that so I explained. He asked me where I find nuts like that.

Did he say who else he thought was a live horse?

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Did he say who else he thought was a live horse?

He said Pletchers horse was just as good Cajun(on works). I asked him if he was put to heads up matchup who he would take, and he paused briefly and said Pletcher. Roman Dynasty.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by oracle80

He said Pletchers horse was just as good Cajun(on works). I asked him if he was put to heads up matchup who he would take, and he paused briefly and said Pletcher. Roman Dynasty.

That's ironic, because those are my two choices at this point. Thanks for the info, Mike.

[Gander]

Cajun- I dont agree with your philosophy on odds. I agree with Blackthroat and Bold Ruler on this one. Even if you think Showing Up is a logical winner, you should very well care what the odds are. The higher the odds, means more profit if you are right, so you should increase your bet. If I liked Showing Up as much as Bold Ruler, I would bet a higher dollar amount at odds of 6/1 than I would if he was 2/1.

This is a crazy game and you need all the help you can get with odds. You need to take your heart and ego out of it when you are betting money. Too many things can go wrong in a horse race...

Just read some of the threads on this board lately, seems like almost every horse that doesnt win has some sort of an excuse.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Gander

Cajun- I dont agree with your philosophy on odds. I agree with Blackthroat and Bold Ruler on this one. Even if you think Showing Up is a logical winner, you should very well care what the odds are. The higher the odds, means more profit if you are right, so you should increase your bet. If I liked Showing Up as much as Bold Ruler, I would bet a higher dollar amount at odds of 6/1 than I would if he was 2/1.

This is a crazy game and you need all the help you can get with odds. You need to take your heart and ego out of it when you are betting money. Too many things can go wrong in a horse race...

Just read some of the threads on this board lately, seems like almost every horse that doesnt win has some sort of an excuse.

I agree with that, Tim. Kevin will tell you, I bet with my heart WAY TOO OFTEN. LOL

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Did he say who else he thought was a live horse?

I will e-mail him but there is a horse with some connection to Cigar he liked. Don't know if it was the Mott connection of the AP connection. I am just betting win, but my friend's brother, who is a pretty good handicapper likes Rock Lobster to give Showing Up a race. I personally think Stream Cat is the only horse that could beat him.

Originally Posted by boldruler

I will e-mail him but there is a horse with some connection to Cigar he liked. Don't know if it was the Mott connection of the AP connection. I am just betting win, but my friend's brother, who is a pretty good handicapper likes Rock Lobster to give Showing Up a race. I personally think Stream Cat is the only horse that could beat him.

Rock Lobster is a very slow horse, and anyone who likes him cannot be a good handicapper.

Showing Up is a complete bet againt in my eyes. I would be totally surprised if Showing Up is in the top 3. Stream Cat looks much the best, but there is some talent in this field. I don't know who I like so far, but Showing Up and Rock Lobster are out in my book.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Rock Lobster is a very slow horse, and anyone who likes him cannot be a good handicapper.

I don't know if he is a good handicapper or just someone that gets a lot of inside information, but he had more to win on Barbaro than your $2 triple paid.