Len Bias

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You read Bill Simmons' column, right? Or was it Scoop's?

Either way, Simmons had a really good inclusion about how Bias' death served as a giant anti-drug, and more to the point, anti-coke ad during the late '80s..

Being a young dude, I didn't have the privilege of being around to see him play, but the story is still astounding to me for the fact that no one's totally positive that Bias even had a drug problem; he just got carried away while partying one night, and POOF - he's gone..

Wild stuff.

I actually read them both. Scoop is prob my favorite to read on ESPN. In Scoop's article he mentions Wilbon's article written after Bias's death. I remember that article and if I can find it I will post it here. Prob one of the best reads regarding Bias ever.

I remember hearing a little theory about Bias and his death. It was assumed that Bias did not have a drug problem, but once he got drafted then a certain dealer knew he was going to have bank to spend on cocaine. Well the dealer wanted Bias to get hooked so that he could make a big score. Apparently the coke was free and Bias obviously took too much. The dealer was looking to make a meal ticket out of Bias. I have no clue if this is true, but it seems logical.

[Gander]

I'm sure nobody pointed a gun to his head to do the white garbage. It was a bad decision on his part, one many of us have mad and got away with. Unfortunately he didnt. Like many other regular people, he died because his heart was not strong enough to withstand the effects of the drug.
Cocaine is very bad news and sad to say I have a few good friends hooked on the stuff. Its just a matter of time before it kills them.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Gander

I'm sure nobody pointed a gun to his head to do the white garbage. It was a bad decision on his part, one many of us have mad and got away with. Unfortunately he didnt. Like many other regular people, he died because his heart was not strong enough to withstand the effects of the drug.
Cocaine is very bad news and sad to say I have a few good friends hooked on the stuff. Its just a matter of time before it kills them.

pval take note..lol

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Gander

I'm sure nobody pointed a gun to his head to do the white garbage. It was a bad decision on his part, one many of us have mad and got away with. Unfortunately he didnt. Like many other regular people, he died because his heart was not strong enough to withstand the effects of the drug.
Cocaine is very bad news and sad to say I have a few good friends hooked on the stuff. Its just a matter of time before it kills them.

Tim, I also know a few friends who have issues with it. With drugs like these, you are playing with your life. Remember a basic heart abnormality will get magnified. Scary stuff but I don't tell people how to live their lives.

[Gander]

I am ashamed to admit I have used it before. One summer about 8 years ago I dated a very rich Skidmore girl who was into it and I dabbled in it because it was there and free. I had some good times on it but I knew that garbage would never get the best of me. I havent done it one time since. My friends and coworkers have tried to tempt me on special occasions but no way. Never going near it. I have enough to deal with the horses.

[randallscott35]

The important thing is that you don't do it anymore. Everyone makes mistakes....I will say that people would be shocked if they knew just how many people still do the stuff. This isn't the 80's but it has picked up a bit in the last 5 years.

[Gander]

Even that summer, when she wasnt around, I wouldnt go looking for it. Never got into drugs for obvious (smart) reasons. I was a big drinker back in my twenties, but even then I knew there would come a day when I could easily give the booze up. When I hit 30, I pretty much stopped doing anything that made me feel like crap the next day. Life is too short to waste days being hungover. Last time I was drunk was at my bachelor party one year ago, Belmont Stakes day 2005. I felt so pitiful for 2 days after, I swore I wouldnt get drunk for a very long time and I have stuck by it.

[EpBurns]

I didnt see this thread until this morning but I felt like responding after I saw it, I Played against Lenny Bias in high school, we played them at our gym one game in the middle of the season, Northwestern vs Duval, we were beating them for most of the game and were up by 2 pts with seconds to go and thier Point Guard throws in a 55 footer to tie the game (no 3-pt back then) and we come out for the jump ball to start overtime and Lenny looks over at me and says "big man I am about to take over" I laughed at him, well the first time he touches the ball in OT he takes it to the hole and dunks on 3 of our big men (6'7',6'8',6'5') and gets fouled and looks over at me and winks, man what a talent what a player nice guy also but also what a waste. They beat us that night but lost in the state finals to High Point high school, but watching him at MD while I went to Missouri was just a thrill. I laugh sometimes when I read old newspaper or quotes about him concerned playing with the Celtics back then of course he would of been the 6th man for that team but that would of been for one year after that he would of had to start because he was that specail I truely believe in my heart of hearts that Lenny Bias would of started in his 2nd year with the Celtics at shooting Guard! 6'8" 225lb shooting guard. But those are my memories of one of the truely great players in basketball that we never got to see light up the NBA

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Gander

I am ashamed to admit I have used it before. One summer about 8 years ago I dated a very rich Skidmore girl who was into it and I dabbled in it because it was there and free. I had some good times on it but I knew that garbage would never get the best of me. I havent done it one time since. My friends and coworkers have tried to tempt me on special occasions but no way. Never going near it. I have enough to deal with the horses.

I picked up the habit in college and then spent a couple of years spiraling downward before i got clean--take it from one who's been there don't dabble.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Gander

I am ashamed to admit I have used it before. One summer about 8 years ago I dated a very rich Skidmore girl who was into it and I dabbled in it because it was there and free. I had some good times on it but I knew that garbage would never get the best of me. I havent done it one time since. My friends and coworkers have tried to tempt me on special occasions but no way. Never going near it. I have enough to deal with the horses.

LOL, yeah Timmy, when people wonder why I don't smoke trees, I just think "I've got enough expensive habits," mainly the nags..

[Gander]

LOL Joe, I like to focus all my attention on one vice, I dont need 3 vices. Trying to not bet every weekend is a struggle for me. I wont kid ya, theres not a card at Belmont or Saratoga or Santa Anita that I couldnt find at least 1 or 2 horses that I want to play.

For instance, I look at Thursday's card at Belmont and my old pal All Hail Stormy is entered. What to do, what to do!