Top 10 BC perfomances (last 10 years)

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

funny, i don't feel embarassed...

and thats not what i typed,
i said his performance was an average grade 1 WIN,
not that the BCc is an average grade 1 RACE,

we need to see past his cool blinker set and put his averageness into perspective.

he was not on the triple crown trail,
he was a sprinter that ran 3 or 4 routes in his entire life, and who took off months between these starts. this was before the detention tent too, i might add.

surely you cannot put this tiny career in comparison to the great horses such as secretariat, affimred, and seattle slew.
and to throw such accolades at an underserving horse such as this is a clear insult to those i afore mentioned.

What does "average grade 1 win" mean? I think any trainer would have taken that "average grade 1 win" for any race at any time(expect maybe against Secretariat at the Belmont!) Besides, no one is comparing him to all time greats on this thread, just his performance in the BC.. you can't seem to see past your bias against GZ to appreciate his extraordinary talent.

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

What does "average grade 1 win" mean? I think any trainer would have taken that "average grade 1 win" for any race at any time(expect maybe against Secretariat at the Belmont!) Besides, no one is comparing him to all time greats on this thread, just his performance in the BC.. you can't seem to see past your bias against GZ to appreciate his extraordinary talent.

If you have trouble putting "average grade 1 " into perspective, perhaps you should watch more races and develop an understanding for yourself.

he had no extra oridinary talent, my whole point,
just a lot of hype from people who look anywhere for a hero, deserving of the accolade or not.

the horse was NO where near triple crown ability,
at 3, or 4. he was just overhyped by people looking for an escape, and there was Gz. well lets pick him, he has cool headgear, nothing more to it than that.

[Gauchos0522]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

If you have trouble putting "average grade 1 " into perspective, perhaps you should watch more races and develop an understanding for yourself.

he had no extra oridinary talent, my whole point,
just a lot of hype from people who look anywhere for a hero, deserving of the accolade or not.

the horse was NO where near triple crown ability,
at 3, or 4. he was just overhyped by people looking for an escape, and there was Gz. well lets pick him, he has cool headgear, nothing more to it than that.

No one said anything about him being triple crown ability or anything associated with the triple crown. This horse completley dominated especially in his 4 year old season with the only race he almost was beat was when saint liam took him 15 wide into the turn in the woodward. Saint Liam was so spent form that effort he skipped the classic also! GZ went on to demolish a field at the BC including your beloved PP. This statement about his blinkers is a complete joke. He was dominanant even when he was beaten he was spectacular. Look at his King's Bishop as a 3 year old.

Originally Posted by Gauchos0522

No one said anything about him being triple crown ability or anything associated with the triple crown. This horse completley dominated especially in his 4 year old season with the only race he almost was beat was when saint liam took him 15 wide into the turn in the woodward. Saint Liam was so spent form that effort he skipped the classic also! GZ went on to demolish a field at the BC including your beloved PP. This statement about his blinkers is a complete joke. He was dominanant even when he was beaten he was spectacular. Look at his King's Bishop as a 3 year old.

what season, ?? huh ??

three races hardly makes a season,
just a fragile horse that could or could not have been doped before the Bcc because no one was testing then. and the statement about his blinkers is dead on right. in dealing with the public thats about how far as they can see.

i like the 4 horse, i like his headgear, i will bet him.. gee he won, he is the greatest.
see the 4 horse, he is a pretty horse, he is the greatest. jeez you give too much credit to the mind
of the general bettor.

[Gauchos0522]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

what season, ?? huh ??

three races hardly makes a season,
just a fragile horse that could or could not have been doped before the Bcc because no one was testing then. and the statement about his blinkers is dead on right. in dealing with the public thats about how far as they can see.

i like the 4 horse, i like his headgear, i will bet him.. gee he won, he is the greatest.
see the 4 horse, he is a pretty horse, he is the greatest. jeez you give too much credit to the mind
of the general bettor.

"Few horses have devastated their opponents in so many ways, at so many distances, and in such fast times."--Steve Haskin
I don't know about you but along with Crist, Haskin is one of the most highly regarded writers/fans of the buisness. He states it perfectly....the horse completley dominated.

Originally Posted by Gauchos0522

"Few horses have devastated their opponents in so many ways, at so many distances, and in such fast times."--Steve Haskin
I don't know about you but along with Crist, Haskin is one of the most highly regarded writers/fans of the buisness. He states it perfectly....the horse completley dominated.

he must have fallen for the cool head gear no doubt, because he was not that dominant.
he sprinted at three and faced the same horses numerous times. and at 4 his carrer was over in a few races, hardly dominance.

The son of Dynaformer, Perfect Drift, however, has the careeer of dominance. to persist into your seventh year and still come within a nose of a grade 1 win is a sign of a complete animal dominating his profession. A flash in the pan is just that, a momentary flash,.momentary and dominant do not go in the same sentence as sequtiors, rather opposites.

[Gauchos0522]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

he must have fallen for the cool head gear no doubt, because he was not that dominant.
he sprinted at three and faced the same horses numerous times. and at 4 his carrer was over in a few races, hardly dominance.

The son of Dynaformer, Perfect Drift, however, has the careeer of dominance. to persist into your seventh year and still come within a nose of a grade 1 win is a sign of a complete animal dominating his profession. A flash in the pan is just that, a momentary flash,.momentary and dominant do not go in the same sentence as sequtiors, rather opposites.

Wow Perfect Drift dominant. Longevity and mney machine yes but dominant no. Plus GZ destroyed him in the 2004 classic. And yes Haskin fell for the blinkers...now this is getting foolish.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

he must have fallen for the cool head gear no doubt, because he was not that dominant.
he sprinted at three and faced the same horses numerous times. and at 4 his carrer was over in a few races, hardly dominance.

The son of Dynaformer, Perfect Drift, however, has the careeer of dominance. to persist into your seventh year and still come within a nose of a grade 1 win is a sign of a complete animal dominating his profession. A flash in the pan is just that, a momentary flash,.momentary and dominant do not go in the same sentence as sequtiors, rather opposites.

You had no creditability to begin with, now you're the mayor of MORONVILLE.
Saying Perfect Drift has had a career of dominace!?! No disrespect top PD who's had a nice career gaining earnings by hitting the board in many G1's, but you have to WIN races to be considered dominant. GZ did that. You don't like GZ and YOU believe GZ is "overhyped," that's fine. Just back up your statements with something that makes sense.. Have fun, mayor.