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01-24-2007, 09:58 PM
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If you don't play "angles" on a $5000 Mcl, why would you worry about them for the Derby? The best way to make a profit on the Derby is to cap it like you would any other race.
Trust your skills as a capper......not some crazy "angles." After all.....didn't one of the "angles" have something to do with it being impossible to win off a 5-week layoff? How did that one turn out? 
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01-24-2007, 10:10 PM
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Nobody's playing angles, they're just fun bits of information on the biggest American horse race.
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01-24-2007, 10:35 PM
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Here's a copy of Somer's derby angles that I found:
Here are the 15 angles for selecting the Derby winner: 1) Do not bet a gelding to win the Derby 2) Do not bet a horse that didn't have a prep race in April. 3) Don't bet any horse with fewer than 3 prep races since January 1st. 4) Don't bet a horse with fewer than 5 life time starts. 5) Don't bet any horse that hasn't had at least one prep race of 8f or longer. 6) Don't bet a foreign-based horse to win the Derby. 7) Don't bety any horse that didn't start at two. 8) Don't bet any "Late Nominee" to the race. 9) Don't bet a horse with a DI over 4.00 or a CD over 1.00. 10) Don't bet a horse with fewer than 16 points in DP, prefer at least 18. 11) Don't bet a horse with RAN Curse. 12) Don't bet winner of BCJ to win the Derby. 13) Don't bet a horse that finished out of the money in last prep. 14) Don't bet a horse with Damascus in sire's sire line to win Derby 15) Don't bet a horse that failed to finish in the top 4 in one of the following preps: Florida Derby, Arkansas Derby, Santa Anita Derby, Wood, Blue Grass, Spiral.
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01-25-2007, 08:17 AM
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Doh!!
Ok, so most horses are brown
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01-25-2007, 08:23 AM
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I think you're missing a few. There have been 132 derbies.
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01-25-2007, 09:49 AM
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Besides, I didn't think off-color remarks were allowed on Derby Trail. --Dunbar
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01-25-2007, 09:55 AM
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I thought for sure that Winning Colors was a grey.
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01-25-2007, 09:57 AM
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01-25-2007, 10:14 AM
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more angles:
No "A" horse has won in 20 years. Just 2 "B" horses have won in past 71 years. No "D" horse has won in 36 years. No "E" horse has won in 71 years. No "F" horse has won in 21 years. No "H" horse has won in 54 years. Just one "I" horse has won the Derby in 133 years. (and it was because of Shoemaker's mistake!) No "J" horse has won in 67 years. Just 2 "K" horses have won the Derby, but none in 40 years. Just 2 "N" horses have won the Derby; none in 50 years. (so toss out No Biz) Just 2 "O" horses have won the Derby; none in 71 years. Just 1 "U" horse has won the Derby Just 1 "V" horse has won the Derby; none in 46 years. Just 1 "X","Y",or "Z" horse has won the Derby; none in 83 years. And, on the plus side: "G" horses have won 3 of the last 13 runnings. 17 "S" horses have won the Derby, including 3 TC winners and 5 of the last 17 winners. Boy, it's going to be easy this year. Looks like a Superfecta with Street Sense, Scat Daddy, Stormello and Great Hunter. The fact that Street Sense fails the 3-syllable test is offset by the fact that he has 2 starting "S"'s in his name. Think Seattle Slew and Sunday Silence. --Dunbar
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01-25-2007, 10:19 AM
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Genetically WC is grey. The roan gene doesn't exist in the breed. If they lighten w/age, they are grey and she's white now. "Grey" in a horse is a progressive "conditition" effecting color. Roan is permanent. What does exist in the TB is rabicano which (similar to roan, but different genetically) is a sprinkling of white hairs over the primary body coat. In a rabicano, like a roan the white does not progress and become more prominent.
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01-25-2007, 10:32 AM
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01-26-2007, 12:27 PM
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You don't see true roans in the TB these days (mixture of colored and white hairs that does NOT change with age). BUt the Jockey CLub decided to use the term 'roan' to describe horses whose coat base color was reddish (like a bright red bay, or red chestnut). Nearly all the so-called 'roans' in the Stud Book are actually, genetically grays. Just to make things interesting, however, the JC sometimes registers colored horses with minimal random white hair patterns (like rabicano or skunk-tail) as roans, too.
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