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Old 01-22-2007, 02:04 PM
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all i hear is praises for edgar and slams on ramon. ramons definately the better rider in my book. ive seen edgar make as many bone-head decisions as any1 on the main circuit. edgar is apparently a classy person and very likeable but overrated as a rider in my book. btw i dont hear any ramon bashing after this past week

Prado and Ramon are in 2 different classes. One guy rides in the top meets and is successful....one guy is forced to ride at 3rd class meets and comes up for air to pick up scraps when the top guys go away.

As far as this week.....Ramon is riding at AQU during a time of bad racing and is getting first call mounts....sure he is gonna be successful at a meet when he is riding against the likes of Diane Nelson and Andrew Lakeman.....
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:06 PM
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Prado and Ramon are in 2 different classes. One guy rides in the top meets and is successful....one guy is forced to ride at 3rd class meets and comes up for air to pick up scraps when the top guys go away.

As far as this week.....Ramon is riding at AQU during a time of bad racing and is getting first call mounts....sure he is gonna be successful at a meet when he is riding against the likes of Diane Nelson and Andrew Lakeman.....
He earned $14,409,988 by riding 3rd class meets and picking up scraps.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:19 PM
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He earned $14,409,988 by riding 3rd class meets and picking up scraps.

Yes...he wins a TON of races at Delaware....and their purses are good down there..thats where the earnings come from.....lots of wins in mediocore races....and he rides all the good horses....his competition there is weak...outside of Jeremy Rose there aren't any half decent jocks at that meet.........it's like Russell Baze....wins a ton of races at bad meets....is Baze a bad jock? Not at all......is skilled.....but the guy has ONE grade I victory in all those wins.....
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:21 PM
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Yes...he wins a TON of races at Delaware....and their purses are good down there..thats where the earnings come from.....lots of wins in mediocore races....and he rides all the good horses....his competition there is weak...outside of Jeremy Rose there aren't any half decent jocks at that meet.........it's like Russell Baze....wins a ton of races at bad meets....is Baze a bad jock? Not at all......is skilled.....but the guy has ONE grade I victory in all those wins.....
If I was a jock and could earn $14mm a year without traveling a whole bunch I would.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:25 PM
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If I was a jock and could earn $14mm a year without traveling a whole bunch I would.
He earned 10% of that.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:32 PM
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He earned 10% of that.
I know, I should of said his mounts earned that. So he earned $1.4mm. Prado earned $1.9mm. Not that big of a difference.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:34 PM
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I know, I should of said his mounts earned that. So he earned $1.4mm. Prado earned $1.9mm. Not that big of a difference.
Nah that's chump change.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:35 PM
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I know, I should of said his mounts earned that. So he earned $1.4mm. Prado earned $1.9mm. Not that big of a difference.
Prado won the Derby and at least one BC race as well. Somehow I think Ramon would like to be competitive in those races.
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Old 01-22-2007, 03:02 PM
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Yes...he wins a TON of races at Delaware....and their purses are good down there..thats where the earnings come from.....lots of wins in mediocore races....and he rides all the good horses....his competition there is weak...outside of Jeremy Rose there aren't any half decent jocks at that meet.........it's like Russell Baze....wins a ton of races at bad meets....is Baze a bad jock? Not at all......is skilled.....but the guy has ONE grade I victory in all those wins.....

You forgot Mario Pino, most underrated 5,000 win rider in the country.
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Old 01-22-2007, 03:10 PM
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You forgot Mario Pino, most underrated 5,000 win rider in the country.
Oh yeah....Pino...he's ok.....but after that the jock colony takes a steep fall.....

Juan Umana....Kendrick Carmouche.....Clyde Martin...Nick Petro.........frightening
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