A weird trend I've noticed....

#1 01-22-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I even worked his half brother into it!

Why is it that you think no horse who's ever won a debut at Saratoga or Del Mar has went on to capture his division the following season?

To me it is rather astounding that this has never happened. I would love to go back and see where the horses who won a 3 year championship debut. I don't think there is one particupar reason to this question. The only thing I can think of is that you are only working with about 8-12 weeks a year between the two tracks. But like you mentioned, there are tons of great MSW races at both tracks that attract top horses.

Sightseek · #2 01-22-2007, 09:29 AM

Out of curiosity I started looking up a few horses that were Champion Three Year Olds...did A.P. Indy make his debut in an Allowance or is this information wrong?

http://www.tmeter.com/horses/apindy.html

Linny · #3 01-22-2007, 09:35 AM

AP Indy ran in a MSW at DelMar in his debut. He was 4th.

Sightseek · #4 01-22-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny

AP Indy ran in a MSW at DelMar in his debut. He was 4th.

Thanks, the database is wrong then.

Linny · #5 01-22-2007, 09:43 AM

The 3yo divisions in the late 90's were dominated by Cali horses. Charismatic/Silver Charm/Real Quiet etc all came from thew west. Skip Away and Holy Bull debuted at Monmouth and, Thunder Gulch was 3rd in a BEL MSW in his debut. Prairie Bayou was crushed in his KEE debut and won 2nd out at Churchill.

There was a time when SAR maiden winners were regarded as the best propsects. Before the BC, races like the Futurity and the Champagne made champions.

Sorry to say but with guys like Pletcher winning bunches of races for 2yo's at the Spa, the 3yo records of those winners should be better. It looks like they are pointed for the win at the Spa and then if they don't pan out, oh well...we still have some more serious, later developing types for the classics.

Also, it used to be that the best 2yo's in the east went to Saratoga for the stakes program. Affirmed was already a sw when he hit town. Dehere won all three SAR stakes at 2. So did City Zip. Of course, now most of the horses pointed for those races are not the ones trainers are considering for the classics the next season.