Declans Moon

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by ultracapper

that one there doesn't quote ellis, but i remember a quote where, he indeed, said he was pointing for the strub series. i remember clearly discussing it with somebody and saying it would have been nice if the reporter would have covered for him. it might have been in the print version of drf. i remember it very well. i thought at the time it was very tacky that the reporter didn't have his back. i think it was with gmb, i'm sure it was (is gmb on this board?). i remember gmb asking why would any reporter want to cover for him, he's a jerk. then greg said he wouldn't let ellis train a mule, never mind a thoroughbred.

anyway, i don't care. i just find it funny that zito got his a$$ handed to him on this board, and ron ellis is getting so much support. if you want to support ron ellis with a couple of 4th place derby finishes, and bust zito because he's only WON a few triple crown races, it's just backasswards. in my humble opinion, the difference between those two trainers is night and day, and i don't think i need to state which one i think is in the dark.

There is no chance that Ellis mentioned the Strub Series. I know Ellis very well. He knows what's going on. He knows how old his horse is. The reason I asked to see the quote was because I knew that there was no chance that Ellis said that. Sure enough, there is no quote from Ellis that mentions the Strub. If he said he was going to run in the Strub Series, that's what the quote would have said. If he was that specific in mentioning the Strub Series, then why would the quote have only mentioned "the big races at Santa Anita"? Do you think in one sentence he said, "I'm pointing him for the Strub Series."? Then in the next sentence he said, "Im pointing him for the big races at Santa Anita."? That's ridiculous. It was obviously the writer that made the mistake.

With regard to Nick Zito, I think he is a very good trainer.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

There is no chance that Ellis mentioned the Strub Series. I know Ellis very well. He knows what's going on. He knows how old his horse is. The reason I asked to see the quote was because I knew that there was no chance that Ellis said that. Sure enough, there is no quote from Ellis that mentions the Strub. If he said he was going to run in the Strub Series, that's what the quote would have said. If he was that specific in mentioning the Strub Series, then why would the quote have only mentioned "the big races at Santa Anita"? Do you think in one sentence he said, "I'm pointing him for the Strub Series."? Then in the next sentence he said, "Im pointing him for the big races at Santa Anita."? That's ridiculous. It was obviously the writer that made the mistake.

With regard to Nick Zito, I think he is a very good trainer.

The Zito thing wasnt meant for you...was meant for that idiot on here who was blasting him...

He says he is pointing for big races at SA.....The Strub and The Malibu are probably two of the top races (along with big cap and SA Derby)....so I dont get your argument there...those are big races at SA

Listen...I think Ellis is an average trainer at best who really screwed up with Declan's moon.....my opinion which I have the right to.....

You like they guy and think a lot more of him than me....thats fine....lets move on